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Here's my blame attribution 10% - The guys. Yea, a bit moronic to make a private adult joke that can be heard by others in a professional setting. But even in

by b0sk 14y ago

Here's my blame attribution 10% - The guys. Yea, a bit moronic to make a private adult joke that can be heard by others in a professional setting. But even in a real job setting, they'd just get a reprimand from HR and that'll straighten most of them out. 40% - Adria. It's getting evident that she went out of the way to take offense and sees herself as Joan of Arc (superiority complex?). She tries to make herself the center of the story. Extra credits for implying in her twitter feed that every criticism she's getting is from trolls. 50% - The company which fired the guy. Are you kidding me? Unless there's a backstory or a history of such behavior from the guy, it's awfully cruel to rob a guy of his livelihood without weighing all the facts. Yea, do an internal reprimand.. but FIRING?! Crazy people heading the company. 0% - PyCon organizers. 0% - Adria's employers.

breadbox 14y ago
"40% - Adria, 0% - PyCon organizers." Really? I mean, PyCon had a Code Of Conduct. If you don't blame the organizers for sticking to the published code, then how does Adria get blamed for doing the same? Doesn't that strike you as getting mad at her for "tattling"? On the other hand, if you think the Code itself is bogus, then why don't the PyCon organizers get a share of the blame for a bad policy?
- EvanKelly 14y ago
  I imagine this would be a non-story if the PyCon Organizers had been directly messaged or contacted and this guy was either asked to leave / reprimanded / asked to apologize. As it stands, the complaint was made via a publicly posted picture on a heavily followed twitter account. Everyone has the right to feel uncomfortable and try to alleviate that discomfort. Knowing of the Code of Conduct, Adria's decision to bring that to the PyCon Organizers attention is certainly a reasonable action. I think your parent comment thinks that regardless of how the PyCon Organizers were notified, they did the right (or at least acceptable thing). The parent comment suggests that they don't agree with Adria's method of contacting the organizers.
- moistgorilla 14y ago
  From what I understand, she didn't stick to the code. It was stated in the code that no pictures should be taken without the express consent of the subject. Nobody cares about Adria writing on her twitter account that it's not cool to say stupid jokes. Nobody cares about PyCon organizers kicking the people out. What people care about is that she posted their faces online to 9000 twitter users which resulted in one of the people getting fired.
designNERD 14y ago
most sensible response I have read on this entire issue

by b0sk 14y ago

breadbox 14y ago

"40% - Adria, 0% - PyCon organizers." Really? I mean, PyCon had a Code Of Conduct. If you don't blame the organizers for sticking to the published code, then how does Adria get blamed for doing the same? Doesn't that strike you as getting mad at her for "tattling"? On the other hand, if you think the Code itself is bogus, then why don't the PyCon organizers get a share of the blame for a bad policy?

EvanKelly 14y ago
I imagine this would be a non-story if the PyCon Organizers had been directly messaged or contacted and this guy was either asked to leave / reprimanded / asked to apologize. As it stands, the complaint was made via a publicly posted picture on a heavily followed twitter account. Everyone has the right to feel uncomfortable and try to alleviate that discomfort. Knowing of the Code of Conduct, Adria's decision to bring that to the PyCon Organizers attention is certainly a reasonable action. I think your parent comment thinks that regardless of how the PyCon Organizers were notified, they did the right (or at least acceptable thing). The parent comment suggests that they don't agree with Adria's method of contacting the organizers.
moistgorilla 14y ago
From what I understand, she didn't stick to the code. It was stated in the code that no pictures should be taken without the express consent of the subject. Nobody cares about Adria writing on her twitter account that it's not cool to say stupid jokes. Nobody cares about PyCon organizers kicking the people out. What people care about is that she posted their faces online to 9000 twitter users which resulted in one of the people getting fired.

designNERD 14y ago

most sensible response I have read on this entire issue