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The text doesn't mention if the bug remains in Internet Explorer 10. It would be interesting to know if the bug has been fixed in the latest major version. Doe

by Zirro 14y ago

The text doesn't mention if the bug remains in Internet Explorer 10. It would be interesting to know if the bug has been fixed in the latest major version. Does Microsoft send out non-security updates for Internet Explorer 9 for those who are unable or unwilling to update to the latest version?

josteink 14y ago
Unable to reproduce in MSIE10: http://jsfiddle.net/4Zukm/ http://jsfiddle.net/4Zukm/
- beeglebug 14y ago
  That code won't kill it, it seems to need a width and height, see this one: http://codepen.io/beeglebug/pen/ntLbv http://codepen.io/beeglebug/pen/ntLbv
  - spauka 14y ago
    Doesn't kill IE10 on my box. V: 10.0.9200.16521
    - kris121 14y ago
      Microsoft should claim "We don't have Something like bugZilla". OR We are unable to reproduce the bugs you have claim.
      - hp50g 14y ago
        Huh they do: http://connect.microsoft.com/directory/accepting-bugs/internet/ http://connect.microsoft.com/directory/accepting-bugs/intern...
        kris121 14y ago
        Hello hp50g, Thanks for your link I have used http://webmatrix.uservoice.com/ http://webmatrix.uservoice.com/ too much. Search for google on this site with "Kristina". You found a lot of post written by me. I just hate it because I can't gave it to fellow guys work on Linux and Mac. Secondly When I tried it it's crash too much. I write a lot of post their but atleast finally move to Sublime text 2.
  - deleted 14y ago
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  - nailer 14y ago
    Just wanted to make sure this CodePen breaks IE9 (before we confirm whether its fixed in IE10): Confirmed kills IE9 9.0.8112.16421
    - RandallBrown 14y ago
      It kills the page for me, but not the whole browser. Same build.
- ecaron 14y ago
  I'm guessing you're using Windows 8, but suspect that the bug still crashes MSIE10 on Win7. The two browsers look the same, but I suspect there are some drastic differences between their innards.
  - de90 14y ago
    It doesn't crash IE10 on Win7
  - blinkymach12 14y ago
    MSIE10 on Windows 7 here... works fine.
youngerdryas 14y ago
Just a heads up for anyone thinking of ugrading to IE10, it breaks several sites including FedEx, at least on Win7.
- daigoba66 14y ago
  The great thing about IE is that is backwards compatible. A website can automatically trigger IE to render in a specific version using metadata tags. I believe it can even go so far as to force it into compatibility mode by default for the website. For websites that don't do this you can create a special list which can even be managed by group policy. I'm always very frustrated when organizations choose not to upgrade for "compatibility" reasons. That's baloney. They're just too lazy to properly configure their systems.
  - Encosia 14y ago
    There are features in oldIE that you can't bring forward via compatibility mode. I don't have a full list handy, but XML Data Islands come to mind as something that has legitimately anchored companies I've worked with to IE6 (and not because I wrote apps using the XML Data Islands, for the record!). It's not very hard to update that code to use non-legacy approaches, but it's a massive undertaking to even determine what code needs to be updated in some companies where hundreds of one-off apps are created and then never maintained, much less do the work to update them.
    - anglebracket 14y ago
      >XML Data Islands come to mind as something that has legitimately anchored companies I've worked with to IE6 Looking at the pages describing XML data islands, it looks like it would be a day's work to make a shim for other browsers using jQuery. What other "features" would you miss out on by not using IE6?
      - Encosia 14y ago
        The problem isn't fixing that in one application. It's determining which features are affected, how many of your enterprise's hundreds of internal apps are affected, and then putting together a plan to fix all of them. Often, no one has touched these apps for years, and the people who were familiar with them are long, long gone. Even if it turns out that none of a company's applications need to be updated, the cost of determining that is far from zero. In larger companies it can be difficult to successfully make the argument for that cost.
sp332 14y ago
It's available in the Windows Update dialog, but it's not selected by default.
- tracker1 14y ago
  I think that's pretty much bull... it should be checked by default... when you choose to include recommended updates with important ones, it should include IE10 in that list. It's bad enough that IE10 a year ago was close to current, that it took nearly a year to release the thing, now they don't even push it out. IE9 should be effectively dead now, but it's not.
mistercow 14y ago
>Does Microsoft send out non-security updates for Internet Explorer 9 for those who are unable or unwilling to update to the latest version? A crashing bug in a browser is usually considered to be a security risk, so this wouldn't be a non-security update.
- yuhong 14y ago
  Not always. Depends on the details of the crash. This particular case is actually a hang.
yuhong 14y ago
They actually do include non-security "GDR fixes" in cumulative security updates. See the KB article associated with them. For example a MS10-xxx security update fixed the "operation aborted" appendChild problem and made it actually work.

by Zirro 14y ago

josteink 14y ago

Unable to reproduce in MSIE10: http://jsfiddle.net/4Zukm/ http://jsfiddle.net/4Zukm/

beeglebug 14y ago
That code won't kill it, it seems to need a width and height, see this one: http://codepen.io/beeglebug/pen/ntLbv http://codepen.io/beeglebug/pen/ntLbv
- spauka 14y ago
  Doesn't kill IE10 on my box. V: 10.0.9200.16521
  - kris121 14y ago
    Microsoft should claim "We don't have Something like bugZilla". OR We are unable to reproduce the bugs you have claim.
    - hp50g 14y ago
      Huh they do: http://connect.microsoft.com/directory/accepting-bugs/internet/ http://connect.microsoft.com/directory/accepting-bugs/intern...
      - kris121 14y ago
        Hello hp50g, Thanks for your link I have used http://webmatrix.uservoice.com/ http://webmatrix.uservoice.com/ too much. Search for google on this site with "Kristina". You found a lot of post written by me. I just hate it because I can't gave it to fellow guys work on Linux and Mac. Secondly When I tried it it's crash too much. I write a lot of post their but atleast finally move to Sublime text 2.
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]
- nailer 14y ago
  Just wanted to make sure this CodePen breaks IE9 (before we confirm whether its fixed in IE10): Confirmed kills IE9 9.0.8112.16421
  - RandallBrown 14y ago
    It kills the page for me, but not the whole browser. Same build.
ecaron 14y ago
I'm guessing you're using Windows 8, but suspect that the bug still crashes MSIE10 on Win7. The two browsers look the same, but I suspect there are some drastic differences between their innards.
- de90 14y ago
  It doesn't crash IE10 on Win7
- blinkymach12 14y ago
  MSIE10 on Windows 7 here... works fine.

youngerdryas 14y ago

Just a heads up for anyone thinking of ugrading to IE10, it breaks several sites including FedEx, at least on Win7.

daigoba66 14y ago
The great thing about IE is that is backwards compatible. A website can automatically trigger IE to render in a specific version using metadata tags. I believe it can even go so far as to force it into compatibility mode by default for the website. For websites that don't do this you can create a special list which can even be managed by group policy. I'm always very frustrated when organizations choose not to upgrade for "compatibility" reasons. That's baloney. They're just too lazy to properly configure their systems.
- Encosia 14y ago
  There are features in oldIE that you can't bring forward via compatibility mode. I don't have a full list handy, but XML Data Islands come to mind as something that has legitimately anchored companies I've worked with to IE6 (and not because I wrote apps using the XML Data Islands, for the record!). It's not very hard to update that code to use non-legacy approaches, but it's a massive undertaking to even determine what code needs to be updated in some companies where hundreds of one-off apps are created and then never maintained, much less do the work to update them.
  - anglebracket 14y ago
    >XML Data Islands come to mind as something that has legitimately anchored companies I've worked with to IE6 Looking at the pages describing XML data islands, it looks like it would be a day's work to make a shim for other browsers using jQuery. What other "features" would you miss out on by not using IE6?
    - Encosia 14y ago
      The problem isn't fixing that in one application. It's determining which features are affected, how many of your enterprise's hundreds of internal apps are affected, and then putting together a plan to fix all of them. Often, no one has touched these apps for years, and the people who were familiar with them are long, long gone. Even if it turns out that none of a company's applications need to be updated, the cost of determining that is far from zero. In larger companies it can be difficult to successfully make the argument for that cost.

sp332 14y ago

It's available in the Windows Update dialog, but it's not selected by default.

tracker1 14y ago
I think that's pretty much bull... it should be checked by default... when you choose to include recommended updates with important ones, it should include IE10 in that list. It's bad enough that IE10 a year ago was close to current, that it took nearly a year to release the thing, now they don't even push it out. IE9 should be effectively dead now, but it's not.

mistercow 14y ago

>Does Microsoft send out non-security updates for Internet Explorer 9 for those who are unable or unwilling to update to the latest version? A crashing bug in a browser is usually considered to be a security risk, so this wouldn't be a non-security update.

yuhong 14y ago
Not always. Depends on the details of the crash. This particular case is actually a hang.

yuhong 14y ago

They actually do include non-security "GDR fixes" in cumulative security updates. See the KB article associated with them. For example a MS10-xxx security update fixed the "operation aborted" appendChild problem and made it actually work.