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Alright, I'll bite. See, when you say you see a "thread full of bitter men", I cant help but feel you are expressing some kind of bitterness yourself. At least

Alright, I'll bite. See, when you say you see a "thread full of bitter men", I cant help but feel you are expressing some kind of bitterness yourself. At least, I don't share your dismissive feelings towards the concept that a ring should symbolize more than monetize (yeah, strawman right back at'ya :) ). You know... when something is _really_ important, yet no argument is provided to back it up. "Makes her smile", is a positive side-effect, yet not a rational reason that can counter what is bad about diamonds. The whole notion that affection and devotion should be demonstrated through financial sacrifice (and I don't use sacrifice in the terms of "something given up or lost", but "destruction or surrender of something for the sake of [deity]") is a cultural irrationality that you seem to have a very positive look on, and good for you! If someone looks at his/her ring, and feels negative emotion because this ring, which is meant to symbolize the "let's share a life together" between two people, is only made of plain gold, and not something which was more expensive to obtain... It's a good thing for me that I find this cultural irrationality an unattractive red flag. Have a nice day.

gfodor 14y ago
I'm sure you have your own "unattractive red flags" yourself. So do I. We are human, after all. Relationships are about compromise, understanding, and doing things for the other person to make them happy that we may not understand or agree with. This is one of those things. The only reason people in this thread get so bent out of shape on this particular decision (ill speculate) is because of the amount of money involved. Other similar things do not get nearly as much scrutiny. This tells more about an obsession over money on the part of that person than it does about the girl wanting the ring. If your partner doesn't want one, great, but why does it seem fit to say on this particular thing to cast such judgement and provide such passionate explanations as to why you refuse to spend money on this, no matter what she wants? Basically these threads boil down to money, not ethics, not morals, not character, not de beers, or any of that bullshit. It's only an issue because of a high price tag. There are millions of other issues that have thorny ethical consequences but the reason this thread is so filled with passionate arguments judging other people is because of the amount of money involved.

gfodor 14y ago

I'm sure you have your own "unattractive red flags" yourself. So do I. We are human, after all. Relationships are about compromise, understanding, and doing things for the other person to make them happy that we may not understand or agree with. This is one of those things. The only reason people in this thread get so bent out of shape on this particular decision (ill speculate) is because of the amount of money involved. Other similar things do not get nearly as much scrutiny. This tells more about an obsession over money on the part of that person than it does about the girl wanting the ring. If your partner doesn't want one, great, but why does it seem fit to say on this particular thing to cast such judgement and provide such passionate explanations as to why you refuse to spend money on this, no matter what she wants? Basically these threads boil down to money, not ethics, not morals, not character, not de beers, or any of that bullshit. It's only an issue because of a high price tag. There are millions of other issues that have thorny ethical consequences but the reason this thread is so filled with passionate arguments judging other people is because of the amount of money involved.