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We do extend the same thought process to marriage, although not enough of us as shown by some of the comments in this thread. On a related note: I don't want g

by sjtrny 14y ago

We do extend the same thought process to marriage, although not enough of us as shown by some of the comments in this thread. On a related note: I don't want gay marriage. I want governments to stop handing out "you are in a relationship certificates" to EVERYONE.

lutusp 14y ago
> On a related note: I don't want gay marriage. No problem -- if you aren't gay, you aren't required to have a gay marriage. But ask yourself if you want to deny that right to other people. That's quite a different thing -- it's not unlike saying, "I don't want black people marrying white people." Before you reply saying, "But that's not a fair comparison -- black and white people are normal, but gay people are abnormal", consider that (a) it wasn't too long ago that black people were unfairly regarded as abnormal, and (b) there's no good evidence that being gay is abnormal, as that word is most commonly used. Also, why not ask yourself the same question that judges are expected to ask themselves before making a ruling -- which is "Where's the harm?" How does the existence of gay marriage hurt you personally? Consider that gay couples are going to live together anyway (because being gay is not a crime) -- all that changes is that the rights and traditions of civil unions extend to those couples.
- sjtrny 14y ago
  You missed the point entirely, maybe you missed the second sentence? > I want governments to stop handing out "you are in a relationship certificates" to EVERYONE. I want LGBT equality. But beyond that, and looking at the bigger picture, I think the idea of marriage should be abolished altogether.
sjtrny 14y ago
Clarification. I want LGBT equality including recognised marriages. But thinking about the bigger picture I don't see the point in state "you are in a relationship certificates" and think they should be abolished.

by sjtrny 14y ago

lutusp 14y ago

> On a related note: I don't want gay marriage. No problem -- if you aren't gay, you aren't required to have a gay marriage. But ask yourself if you want to deny that right to other people. That's quite a different thing -- it's not unlike saying, "I don't want black people marrying white people." Before you reply saying, "But that's not a fair comparison -- black and white people are normal, but gay people are abnormal", consider that (a) it wasn't too long ago that black people were unfairly regarded as abnormal, and (b) there's no good evidence that being gay is abnormal, as that word is most commonly used. Also, why not ask yourself the same question that judges are expected to ask themselves before making a ruling -- which is "Where's the harm?" How does the existence of gay marriage hurt you personally? Consider that gay couples are going to live together anyway (because being gay is not a crime) -- all that changes is that the rights and traditions of civil unions extend to those couples.

sjtrny 14y ago
You missed the point entirely, maybe you missed the second sentence? > I want governments to stop handing out "you are in a relationship certificates" to EVERYONE. I want LGBT equality. But beyond that, and looking at the bigger picture, I think the idea of marriage should be abolished altogether.

sjtrny 14y ago

Clarification. I want LGBT equality including recognised marriages. But thinking about the bigger picture I don't see the point in state "you are in a relationship certificates" and think they should be abolished.