I am all for saying living car free in dense urban environments and relying on self powered transit or public transit. But the lifestyle change there is pretty

I am all for saying living car free in dense urban environments and relying on self powered transit or public transit. But the lifestyle change there is pretty dramatic for most people compared to a conventional car dependent suburban lifestyle. Comparatively, there is basically no lifestyle difference required to wear a ring without a diamond. Many people doing other stupid and wasteful things is a poor justification to do any particular stupid and wasteful thing.