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"The built-in battery acts as a UPS, which is also nice." Using an old laptop with a old and depleted or soon to be depleted (especially when charged 100% cons

by tjoff 14y ago

"The built-in battery acts as a UPS, which is also nice." Using an old laptop with a old and depleted or soon to be depleted (especially when charged 100% constantly) wouldn't make me feel that comfortable, hardly something it was made for either. The laptop itself is can be kind of neat as a home server, it usually has decent power consumption and if the screen works you don't have to dig out a keyboard and screen in case of an emergency. But you might want to leave the battery out, and this assuming that is is sensible to use the power brick 24/7. Which I wouldn't assume. A more performant alternative is the Intel NUC, the coming i5 version also has hardware support for VNC alleviating the need for a screen/keyboard even for the most severe emergencies.

networked 14y ago
>Using an old laptop with a old and depleted or soon to be depleted (especially when charged 100% constantly) wouldn't make me feel that comfortable >and this assuming that is is sensible to use the power brick 24/7. Which I wouldn't assume. True. I'd be hesitant to let this little Asus run 24/7 like this (it was intended as an information appliance/HTPC akin to the ones in the article anyway, not an always-on home server). Regardless of the above I've got to note that it need not be an old laptop. I bought my 1001PX near new off an online auction. Its owner had only used it for a couple of months before breaking the screen. This isn't a singular case, either, and I have since seen similar units for sale (though I wouldn't advocate buying them in bulk). >the coming i5 version also has hardware support for VNC Now that's pretty cool! For all the potential security risks I'd like to see this feature catch on.
ubercow13 14y ago
What is it about being charged constantly that makes it worse?
- NotUncivil 14y ago
  The battery may be a fire hazard.
  - ubercow13 14y ago
    But the charger won't actually charge constantly, surely it's perfectly safe?
    - tjoff 14y ago
      To my knowledge the current still goes through the battery in laptops. But I could be wrong. And I wouldn't know if that by itself wears more on the battery (other than the heat, if only for being just next to the hot laptop). Regardless batteries found in laptops don't like being 100% charged for prolonged periods, just as they suffer if you leave them at 0% for prolonged periods. Also, you need to condition them. And added to that an old battery. Typically I'd say that a laptop is considered old at the earliest about 2 years after its purchase, that's when the battery wear typically (although greatly dependent on usage) starts to really show and the deterioration starts to excel. You really shouldn't trust even a new consumer laptop battery, but an old borderline to depleted battery that runs 24/7? In a home?

by tjoff 14y ago

networked 14y ago

>Using an old laptop with a old and depleted or soon to be depleted (especially when charged 100% constantly) wouldn't make me feel that comfortable >and this assuming that is is sensible to use the power brick 24/7. Which I wouldn't assume. True. I'd be hesitant to let this little Asus run 24/7 like this (it was intended as an information appliance/HTPC akin to the ones in the article anyway, not an always-on home server). Regardless of the above I've got to note that it need not be an old laptop. I bought my 1001PX near new off an online auction. Its owner had only used it for a couple of months before breaking the screen. This isn't a singular case, either, and I have since seen similar units for sale (though I wouldn't advocate buying them in bulk). >the coming i5 version also has hardware support for VNC Now that's pretty cool! For all the potential security risks I'd like to see this feature catch on.

ubercow13 14y ago

What is it about being charged constantly that makes it worse?

NotUncivil 14y ago
The battery may be a fire hazard.
- ubercow13 14y ago
  But the charger won't actually charge constantly, surely it's perfectly safe?
  - tjoff 14y ago
    To my knowledge the current still goes through the battery in laptops. But I could be wrong. And I wouldn't know if that by itself wears more on the battery (other than the heat, if only for being just next to the hot laptop). Regardless batteries found in laptops don't like being 100% charged for prolonged periods, just as they suffer if you leave them at 0% for prolonged periods. Also, you need to condition them. And added to that an old battery. Typically I'd say that a laptop is considered old at the earliest about 2 years after its purchase, that's when the battery wear typically (although greatly dependent on usage) starts to really show and the deterioration starts to excel. You really shouldn't trust even a new consumer laptop battery, but an old borderline to depleted battery that runs 24/7? In a home?