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tl;dr * horrible chiclet keyboard * tap to click (no physical trackpad buttons) * very few USB ports * no CD/DVD drive * no screen latch

by cmccabe 14y ago

shrughes 14y ago
But it's 10% lighter than the T430s!!
tdicola 14y ago
Or to condense it even further: Like a MacBook Air but with a trackpoint.
scarmig 14y ago
No dispute on the last four points, but honestly... as a Thinkpad user for 7 years, I honestly prefer the current keyboard on the Carbon X1. It feels much better than the other shitty keyboards that exist, especially on most ultrabooks, and the keys don't ever get stuck compared to the old keyboard version. In fact, I think it takes the cake for favorite laptop keyboard I've ever used.
vacri 14y ago
It's not a chiclet keyboard - you can see the air gap under the keys in the first photo.
- pasbesoin 14y ago
  They already went chiclet with the T430. The photos out so far for the 431 have bad/odd lighting with some misleading reflections.
  - vacri 14y ago
    My mistake - I always thought 'chiclet keyboards, named after the gum' referred to the rubber-mat keys that are truly horrible to type on, when it refers to the style of contacts (rubber mat, but can have hard plastic caps).
    - pasbesoin 14y ago
      Opinions vary, but I have read several (about the last iteration, e.g. the T430) that are more favorably inclined to the Lenovo version of these "chiclet" keyboards. That their action is better and that the hard topped, slightly curved keys are more comfortable. Still, though, as far as I know one of those rubber mat "contraptions", under the surface. And with the "island" style key placements (surrounded/separated by a distinct surface, instead of the keys being immediately adjacent to each other).
qwerta 14y ago
* Non-replaceable battery * horrible resolution (my phone has higher)
- mercurial 14y ago
  Where did you see the bit about the non-replaceable battery?
mercurial 14y ago
Frankly, the keyboard on my T430 is the best I've ever used. But yes, it seems to suffer from a severe case of Apple copycatness. One thing I find odd is the statement that they asked people "from all walks of life". It may be a good idea if you're building a generic laptop, but I don't understand why you'd want to do this for a business laptop. You're not going to build high-quality professional sports equipment to cater to the amateur crowd, so why would you do this for a business machine?

tl;dr * horrible chiclet keyboard * tap to click (no physical trackpad buttons) * very few USB ports * no CD/DVD drive * no screen latch

by cmccabe 14y ago

tl;dr * horrible chiclet keyboard * tap to click (no physical trackpad buttons) * very few USB ports * no CD/DVD drive * no screen latch

shrughes 14y ago

But it's 10% lighter than the T430s!!

tdicola 14y ago

Or to condense it even further: Like a MacBook Air but with a trackpoint.

scarmig 14y ago

No dispute on the last four points, but honestly... as a Thinkpad user for 7 years, I honestly prefer the current keyboard on the Carbon X1. It feels much better than the other shitty keyboards that exist, especially on most ultrabooks, and the keys don't ever get stuck compared to the old keyboard version. In fact, I think it takes the cake for favorite laptop keyboard I've ever used.

vacri 14y ago

It's not a chiclet keyboard - you can see the air gap under the keys in the first photo.

pasbesoin 14y ago
They already went chiclet with the T430. The photos out so far for the 431 have bad/odd lighting with some misleading reflections.
- vacri 14y ago
  My mistake - I always thought 'chiclet keyboards, named after the gum' referred to the rubber-mat keys that are truly horrible to type on, when it refers to the style of contacts (rubber mat, but can have hard plastic caps).
  - pasbesoin 14y ago
    Opinions vary, but I have read several (about the last iteration, e.g. the T430) that are more favorably inclined to the Lenovo version of these "chiclet" keyboards. That their action is better and that the hard topped, slightly curved keys are more comfortable. Still, though, as far as I know one of those rubber mat "contraptions", under the surface. And with the "island" style key placements (surrounded/separated by a distinct surface, instead of the keys being immediately adjacent to each other).

qwerta 14y ago

* Non-replaceable battery * horrible resolution (my phone has higher)

mercurial 14y ago
Where did you see the bit about the non-replaceable battery?

mercurial 14y ago

Frankly, the keyboard on my T430 is the best I've ever used. But yes, it seems to suffer from a severe case of Apple copycatness. One thing I find odd is the statement that they asked people "from all walks of life". It may be a good idea if you're building a generic laptop, but I don't understand why you'd want to do this for a business laptop. You're not going to build high-quality professional sports equipment to cater to the amateur crowd, so why would you do this for a business machine?