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Sounds straight up illegal to me

by codesuela 14y ago

ams6110 14y ago
What laws do you think it violates?
- codesuela 14y ago
  Blackmail, extortion, defamation, libel How would they proof that the original comment wasn't libel? I doubt the have cross refrenced commenters IP addresses with the numbers listed. And if you relay libel (especially with malicious intent) it is still libel or maybe even blackmail.
  - milkshakes 14y ago
    it would appear that they are attempting to hide behind free speech (creating an "artwork"). i'm certainly not a lawyer but this seems pretty transparent
    - codesuela 14y ago
      Here is another "artist" who claimed free speech[1] so calling yourself an artist is not blanket protection against prosecution. Also libel is not covered under free speech although I too ANAL. [1] http://betabeat.com/2013/01/2-girls-1-cup-creator-sentenced-to-4-years-in-jail-for-grossing-out-entire-internet/ http://betabeat.com/2013/01/2-girls-1-cup-creator-sentenced-...
      - milkshakes 14y ago
        maybe they want to be taken to court, and that's part of the performance? i like art, but i don't understand postmodernism
  - praptak 14y ago
    What if their database is empty?
    - PeterisP 14y ago
      Well, then charging $10 to view it would clearly match the definition of fraud.
      - praptak 14y ago
        Yes, but it's hard to prove. And they could stuff it with a few fake numbers so it's not technically empty.
    - solistice 14y ago
      aren't they charging 10$ to check for you whether your number is in the database, not 10$ for full database acess?
      - praptak 14y ago
        That's the point - they can safely pocket the 10$ and return "this number is not in our database".
        solistice 14y ago
        Well, i assume they at least run a database query for giggles. I mean 10$ for a database query...SELECT Cash FROM USERS WHERE USERGULLIBILITY > 5 GO There's my 10$.
- PeterisP 14y ago
  The owner seems to be based in EU; so the local data protection laws, at minimum, would require removing user personal info (phone info) at their request, free of charge (not the $1000). And if I recall correctly, they might even be required to prove that they have opt-in permission from the actual users for storing&processing their personal info (phone numbers) even if they obtain it from a third party such as other websites; they obviously don't have this so they can face fines for improper treatment of personal data.

Sounds straight up illegal to me

ams6110 14y ago

What laws do you think it violates?

codesuela 14y ago
Blackmail, extortion, defamation, libel How would they proof that the original comment wasn't libel? I doubt the have cross refrenced commenters IP addresses with the numbers listed. And if you relay libel (especially with malicious intent) it is still libel or maybe even blackmail.
- milkshakes 14y ago
  it would appear that they are attempting to hide behind free speech (creating an "artwork"). i'm certainly not a lawyer but this seems pretty transparent
  - codesuela 14y ago
    Here is another "artist" who claimed free speech[1] so calling yourself an artist is not blanket protection against prosecution. Also libel is not covered under free speech although I too ANAL. [1] http://betabeat.com/2013/01/2-girls-1-cup-creator-sentenced-to-4-years-in-jail-for-grossing-out-entire-internet/ http://betabeat.com/2013/01/2-girls-1-cup-creator-sentenced-...
    - milkshakes 14y ago
      maybe they want to be taken to court, and that's part of the performance? i like art, but i don't understand postmodernism
- praptak 14y ago
  What if their database is empty?
  - PeterisP 14y ago
    Well, then charging $10 to view it would clearly match the definition of fraud.
    - praptak 14y ago
      Yes, but it's hard to prove. And they could stuff it with a few fake numbers so it's not technically empty.
  - solistice 14y ago
    aren't they charging 10$ to check for you whether your number is in the database, not 10$ for full database acess?
    - praptak 14y ago
      That's the point - they can safely pocket the 10$ and return "this number is not in our database".
      - solistice 14y ago
        Well, i assume they at least run a database query for giggles. I mean 10$ for a database query...SELECT Cash FROM USERS WHERE USERGULLIBILITY > 5 GO There's my 10$.
PeterisP 14y ago
The owner seems to be based in EU; so the local data protection laws, at minimum, would require removing user personal info (phone info) at their request, free of charge (not the $1000). And if I recall correctly, they might even be required to prove that they have opt-in permission from the actual users for storing&processing their personal info (phone numbers) even if they obtain it from a third party such as other websites; they obviously don't have this so they can face fines for improper treatment of personal data.