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No the buck stops with the fundamental laws of physics. What you are suggesting will quickly devolve into barbarism. E.g., if I build a house, don't I at least

No the buck stops with the fundamental laws of physics. What you are suggesting will quickly devolve into barbarism. E.g., if I build a house, don't I at least have the right to sleep peacefully in it with my family? Suppose I start with raw materials Y, and transform that into X. Are you saying that everyone else has the same rights to X as I have? Then, in that case you don't even own your body. Watch out for my horde of pillagers and looters! :) "I owe no man." Similarly, no other man owes you anything!

PavlovsCat 14y ago
What you are suggesting will quickly devolve into barbarism. Contrary to what? You really think a bunch of people owning most of the land makes us more civilized? That this is not barbarism? HEH. Oh, and I also mentioned people owning their time and work, so maybe I should have added "dignity" to that and it would have nipped your strawman right in the bud. I just thought it obvious that I am suggesting something less selfish, not more selfish. I suggest shared ownership of shared resources, born out of taking selfish human delusions less seriously. I suggest a bigger focus on stewardship and less delusions of ownership. But you have a point; this suggestion is not intended for barbarians who think leashes make people better or viable in the first place, just because it's true for them. I simply have no plan for those yet, sorry.
- cscurmudgeon 14y ago
  Contrary to what? You really think a bunch of people owning most of the land makes us more civilized? That this is not barbarism? HEH. Are you comparing pillagers with land owners? Sigh and I also mentioned people owning their time and work Tell me what kind of work you can produce without using any natural resources? I suggest shared ownership of shared resources, born out of taking selfish human delusions less seriously. I suggest a bigger focus on stewardship and less delusions of ownership. This is nothing but a subtle leash.

PavlovsCat 14y ago

What you are suggesting will quickly devolve into barbarism. Contrary to what? You really think a bunch of people owning most of the land makes us more civilized? That this is not barbarism? HEH. Oh, and I also mentioned people owning their time and work, so maybe I should have added "dignity" to that and it would have nipped your strawman right in the bud. I just thought it obvious that I am suggesting something less selfish, not more selfish. I suggest shared ownership of shared resources, born out of taking selfish human delusions less seriously. I suggest a bigger focus on stewardship and less delusions of ownership. But you have a point; this suggestion is not intended for barbarians who think leashes make people better or viable in the first place, just because it's true for them. I simply have no plan for those yet, sorry.

cscurmudgeon 14y ago
Contrary to what? You really think a bunch of people owning most of the land makes us more civilized? That this is not barbarism? HEH. Are you comparing pillagers with land owners? Sigh and I also mentioned people owning their time and work Tell me what kind of work you can produce without using any natural resources? I suggest shared ownership of shared resources, born out of taking selfish human delusions less seriously. I suggest a bigger focus on stewardship and less delusions of ownership. This is nothing but a subtle leash.