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Well, it works like this. First republican Abe makes clear he wants to free the slaves, then wins the presidential nomination position in the republican party.

by tinco 14y ago

Well, it works like this. First republican Abe makes clear he wants to free the slaves, then wins the presidential nomination position in the republican party. Then he gets elected by the republican american people to be president as a republican. Then 7 republican states secede from the US and shortly thereafter they wage war. Then the republican Lincoln wins and a period of slave liberation and movement towards equal rights on a federal level begins. Also, according to wikipedia: "The republican party [..] founded by anti-slavery activists in 1854". Now I'm no republican, as a north european you'll find me to be more of the social/liberal kind (yeah.. those two can be together), but I think the republican party has a pretty swell history.

camus 14y ago
The democratic party used to be full of bigoted racists before and during the 60's, let's not forget that. Both parties have nothing to do with the parties they used to be even 50 years ago. The republican party became evangelical/right wing in the end of the 70's. But it is not sustainable because of demographics. A funny fact is most Latinos and Blacks are culturaly more conservative than liberal ( christians / anti-gay ...) , but given the hate on the right they are not going to vote for republicans. And Obama is certainly not a communist. He is not even a progressive.
- joejohnson 14y ago
  >>A funny fact is most Latinos and Blacks are culturaly more conservative than liberal ( christians / anti-gay ...)... I was looking for some sources to support that claim when I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Latino_community http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Latino_commun... and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Black_community http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Black_communi... It's true! Wikipedia says so.
asveikau 14y ago
> Then 7 republican states secede from the US and shortly thereafter they wage war. Uhh. Those states may be Republican now, but none of them went for Lincoln: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1860 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elec... > Then the republican Lincoln wins and a period of slave liberation and movement towards equal rights on a federal level begins. Right, but during the 20th century there was a pole shift in US political parties. To oversimplify a bit: FDR made the Dems the party of economic liberalism and Lyndon Johnson made them the party of civil rights (on which Johnson famously stated: "We've lost the South for a generation").

by tinco 14y ago

camus 14y ago

The democratic party used to be full of bigoted racists before and during the 60's, let's not forget that. Both parties have nothing to do with the parties they used to be even 50 years ago. The republican party became evangelical/right wing in the end of the 70's. But it is not sustainable because of demographics. A funny fact is most Latinos and Blacks are culturaly more conservative than liberal ( christians / anti-gay ...) , but given the hate on the right they are not going to vote for republicans. And Obama is certainly not a communist. He is not even a progressive.

joejohnson 14y ago
>>A funny fact is most Latinos and Blacks are culturaly more conservative than liberal ( christians / anti-gay ...)... I was looking for some sources to support that claim when I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Latino_community http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Latino_commun... and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Black_community http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_the_Black_communi... It's true! Wikipedia says so.

asveikau 14y ago

> Then 7 republican states secede from the US and shortly thereafter they wage war. Uhh. Those states may be Republican now, but none of them went for Lincoln: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1860 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elec... > Then the republican Lincoln wins and a period of slave liberation and movement towards equal rights on a federal level begins. Right, but during the 20th century there was a pole shift in US political parties. To oversimplify a bit: FDR made the Dems the party of economic liberalism and Lyndon Johnson made them the party of civil rights (on which Johnson famously stated: "We've lost the South for a generation").