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Well then Facebook doesn't really work or does it? Facebook works best if you keep it confined to your friends and family, the people you know in-person. Having

Well then Facebook doesn't really work or does it? Facebook works best if you keep it confined to your friends and family, the people you know in-person. Having a fake name would defeat that purpose.

niggler 14y ago
Facebook works best when you don't use it :) I prefer in-person discussions. If that's not possible, calling > texting > email > physical mail. every other solution is irrelevant to me.
- webwanderings 14y ago
  I don't know about you but I have many family members who have practically given up on using email for important announcements like wedding, birth etc. People use Facebook for such communication needs because it is lot more convenient than email. Also, not sure if you noticed but Facebook messaging provides a "return receipt" feature by default. So you know if and when your message (email) is picked up. Try doing that with the free email accounts like gmail, hotmail etc.
  - niggler 14y ago
    "I don't know about you " I'm in the fortunate situation where people in my social circle still prefer phone and email to facebook and twitter :) "announcements like wedding, birth etc" I don't know about your social circles, but in mine those announcements demand in-person discussion or phone calls. Even email feel crass for announcing a birth. "Also, not sure if you noticed but Facebook messaging provides a "return receipt" feature" I've never used facebook messaging heh.
- ams6110 14y ago
  I have this in my /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 facebook.com 127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net 127.0.0.1 facebook.net 127.0.0.1 ads.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 ads.ak.facebook.com Anyone know of any others?
  - niggler 14y ago
    If you are ok with losing FB content, I also have 127.0.0.1 static.ak.fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 www.static.ak.fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 login.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.login.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 fbcdn.com 127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.com 127.0.0.1 static.ak.connect.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.static.ak.connect.facebook.com
  - tquai 14y ago
    Run your own resolver on 127.0.0.1, and your own authoritative nameserver on 127.0.53.1, and configure the resolver to ask the nameserver (returning NXDOMAIN) for * facebook.com * doubleclick.net * google-analytics.com * su (abuse) * 2o7.net * any others you want; get ideas from the MVPS hosts file Since facebook domains (fbcdn.net, facebook.net, etc.) are all serviced by facebook.com nameservers, returning NXDOMAIN for *.facebook.com will thereby sabotage all facebook related queries. This way you won't have to play whack-a-mole with future facebook tracking hosts, so long as they use facebook.com nameservers. Or hell, just create a list of prefixes announced & owned by AS32934, Facebook, and block all. Just to be sure.
  - lignuist 14y ago
    From this file: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt 127.0.0.1 ads.ak.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 creative.ak.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 creative.ak.fbcdn.net #[textads]
tijs 14y ago
It's not like your friends would suddenly not know who you are anymore. You do also talk to your friends in person right? I use a fake name on FB and so do lots of my friends. Like the OC says; there's no magic. I also use an alias email address. Together you can use FB apps without spreading too much easy data around.
- webwanderings 14y ago
  The point is, facebook is tracking your location via IP address. They are most definitely not interested in knowing your real name, so your fake name is as good as anything else. They are dumping relevant Ads on you based first of all on where exactly you're located at. They'd then attempt to dump relevant Ads based on how you (the fake or real name) interacts with the facebook site. They are watching your eyeballs and you can't escape the moment you make a single move.
  - mitchi 14y ago
    I don't think he's worried abotu the ads. He's just saying he's getting away with most of Facebook features without having to tell them his exact name and personal information.
    - webwanderings 14y ago
      Facebook doesn't care about exact name and personal information except to target their Ads effectively. Its no big deal if you don't tell them your real name, they will jump over to the next field. Sooner or later they're going to connect the dots to provide you effective advertisements. It starts with them tracking your location via IP address. The original opinion piece of this thread notwithstanding, but for the majority of the Internet users, the issue is not if and why the state is tracking you (because people at the large scale are not criminals trying to hide from the state), but the issue is whether we should give up liberties in order for the corporations to serve us effective advertisements. The old fashioned TV box was effective only because it had no competitor. The same is not the case on the Internet. PS: the only reason Facebook requires real name (or the reason it has built its social network as a walled-garden) so each person stays unique and does not infiltrate or corrupt the data by signing up multiple times via pseudo-identities. Again, look at it from the advertising perspective. Do we think advertising works effectively if one person shows up as multiple? It doesn't.
JonnieCache 14y ago
(Almost) all my friends have got fake names as well. It's very much de rigueur.
Torgo 14y ago
When you use Facebook, you are always implicitly friends with Mark Zuckerberg and whomever he chooses to share your information with.

Well then Facebook doesn't really work or does it? Facebook works best if you keep it confined to your friends and family, the people you know in-person. Having a fake name would defeat that purpose.

niggler 14y ago

Facebook works best when you don't use it :) I prefer in-person discussions. If that's not possible, calling > texting > email > physical mail. every other solution is irrelevant to me.

webwanderings 14y ago
I don't know about you but I have many family members who have practically given up on using email for important announcements like wedding, birth etc. People use Facebook for such communication needs because it is lot more convenient than email. Also, not sure if you noticed but Facebook messaging provides a "return receipt" feature by default. So you know if and when your message (email) is picked up. Try doing that with the free email accounts like gmail, hotmail etc.
- niggler 14y ago
  "I don't know about you " I'm in the fortunate situation where people in my social circle still prefer phone and email to facebook and twitter :) "announcements like wedding, birth etc" I don't know about your social circles, but in mine those announcements demand in-person discussion or phone calls. Even email feel crass for announcing a birth. "Also, not sure if you noticed but Facebook messaging provides a "return receipt" feature" I've never used facebook messaging heh.
ams6110 14y ago
I have this in my /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 facebook.com 127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net 127.0.0.1 facebook.net 127.0.0.1 ads.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 ads.ak.facebook.com Anyone know of any others?
- niggler 14y ago
  If you are ok with losing FB content, I also have 127.0.0.1 static.ak.fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 www.static.ak.fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 login.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.login.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.net 127.0.0.1 fbcdn.com 127.0.0.1 www.fbcdn.com 127.0.0.1 static.ak.connect.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.static.ak.connect.facebook.com
- tquai 14y ago
  Run your own resolver on 127.0.0.1, and your own authoritative nameserver on 127.0.53.1, and configure the resolver to ask the nameserver (returning NXDOMAIN) for * facebook.com * doubleclick.net * google-analytics.com * su (abuse) * 2o7.net * any others you want; get ideas from the MVPS hosts file Since facebook domains (fbcdn.net, facebook.net, etc.) are all serviced by facebook.com nameservers, returning NXDOMAIN for *.facebook.com will thereby sabotage all facebook related queries. This way you won't have to play whack-a-mole with future facebook tracking hosts, so long as they use facebook.com nameservers. Or hell, just create a list of prefixes announced & owned by AS32934, Facebook, and block all. Just to be sure.
- lignuist 14y ago
  From this file: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt 127.0.0.1 ads.ak.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 creative.ak.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 creative.ak.fbcdn.net #[textads]

tijs 14y ago

It's not like your friends would suddenly not know who you are anymore. You do also talk to your friends in person right? I use a fake name on FB and so do lots of my friends. Like the OC says; there's no magic. I also use an alias email address. Together you can use FB apps without spreading too much easy data around.

webwanderings 14y ago
The point is, facebook is tracking your location via IP address. They are most definitely not interested in knowing your real name, so your fake name is as good as anything else. They are dumping relevant Ads on you based first of all on where exactly you're located at. They'd then attempt to dump relevant Ads based on how you (the fake or real name) interacts with the facebook site. They are watching your eyeballs and you can't escape the moment you make a single move.
- mitchi 14y ago
  I don't think he's worried abotu the ads. He's just saying he's getting away with most of Facebook features without having to tell them his exact name and personal information.
  - webwanderings 14y ago
    Facebook doesn't care about exact name and personal information except to target their Ads effectively. Its no big deal if you don't tell them your real name, they will jump over to the next field. Sooner or later they're going to connect the dots to provide you effective advertisements. It starts with them tracking your location via IP address. The original opinion piece of this thread notwithstanding, but for the majority of the Internet users, the issue is not if and why the state is tracking you (because people at the large scale are not criminals trying to hide from the state), but the issue is whether we should give up liberties in order for the corporations to serve us effective advertisements. The old fashioned TV box was effective only because it had no competitor. The same is not the case on the Internet. PS: the only reason Facebook requires real name (or the reason it has built its social network as a walled-garden) so each person stays unique and does not infiltrate or corrupt the data by signing up multiple times via pseudo-identities. Again, look at it from the advertising perspective. Do we think advertising works effectively if one person shows up as multiple? It doesn't.

JonnieCache 14y ago

(Almost) all my friends have got fake names as well. It's very much de rigueur.

Torgo 14y ago

When you use Facebook, you are always implicitly friends with Mark Zuckerberg and whomever he chooses to share your information with.