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Windows 8 = UEFI Secure Boot. eg see https://lwn.net/Articles/503803/ https://lwn.net/Articles/503803/ it is going to be much more difficult to run Linux. Becau

Windows 8 = UEFI Secure Boot. eg see https://lwn.net/Articles/503803/ https://lwn.net/Articles/503803/ it is going to be much more difficult to run Linux. Because of the dominance of Windows it may be harder to get motherboards without this, so there will be much less choice and you will need more technical knowledge to sell Linux stuff, eg maybe flash your own firmware.

cooldeal 14y ago
All Windows 8 certified machines need the Secure Boot to be able to be turned off. I seriously doubt turning off an option in the BIOS/UEFI setup screen is going to hobble them. http://www.top-password.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/toshiba-secure-boot.jpg http://www.top-password.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/... > you will need more technical knowledge to sell Linux stuff, I would really really hope that a company installing and configuring Linux would have the technical chops to turn off a bios setting.
- sp332 14y ago
  All Windows 8 certified machines This only applies to x86 platforms. ARM-based "Windows RT" systems are locked down. I think you're right about this case but I think it's important to remember that some EFI secure boot systems can't be unlocked.
  - cooldeal 14y ago
    Oh, please. A Windows RT system is not a Windows 8 certified machine, not even close, the capabilities are vastly different. Might as well point out that the "ARM-Based iOS systems" come with a locked bootloader.
  - superuser2 14y ago
    Why would you want to buy an ARM based Linux machine?
    - sp332 14y ago
      The MS Surface is some pretty sweet hardware.
  - bitwize 14y ago
    ARM-based Windows RT systems are also lead balloons in terms of sales. I think that the market will self-correct here, as no one wants ReTarded Windows, or a machine that can only run the same.
    - tracker1 14y ago
      I really wouldn't mind an RT based ARM system, if it were more price competitive (to even low-end x86 systems, and high end android), and wasn't using a locked boot loader. As it stands, no sale.
  - glesica 14y ago
    Irrelevant unless the company in question was selling ARM-based systems (which is impossible since they refer to Windows 8 as something that has changed in their business model, and previous versions of Windows did not support ARM. So they must have been selling x86 machines.

cooldeal 14y ago

All Windows 8 certified machines need the Secure Boot to be able to be turned off. I seriously doubt turning off an option in the BIOS/UEFI setup screen is going to hobble them. http://www.top-password.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/toshiba-secure-boot.jpg http://www.top-password.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/... > you will need more technical knowledge to sell Linux stuff, I would really really hope that a company installing and configuring Linux would have the technical chops to turn off a bios setting.

sp332 14y ago
All Windows 8 certified machines This only applies to x86 platforms. ARM-based "Windows RT" systems are locked down. I think you're right about this case but I think it's important to remember that some EFI secure boot systems can't be unlocked.
- cooldeal 14y ago
  Oh, please. A Windows RT system is not a Windows 8 certified machine, not even close, the capabilities are vastly different. Might as well point out that the "ARM-Based iOS systems" come with a locked bootloader.
- superuser2 14y ago
  Why would you want to buy an ARM based Linux machine?
  - sp332 14y ago
    The MS Surface is some pretty sweet hardware.
- bitwize 14y ago
  ARM-based Windows RT systems are also lead balloons in terms of sales. I think that the market will self-correct here, as no one wants ReTarded Windows, or a machine that can only run the same.
  - tracker1 14y ago
    I really wouldn't mind an RT based ARM system, if it were more price competitive (to even low-end x86 systems, and high end android), and wasn't using a locked boot loader. As it stands, no sale.
- glesica 14y ago
  Irrelevant unless the company in question was selling ARM-based systems (which is impossible since they refer to Windows 8 as something that has changed in their business model, and previous versions of Windows did not support ARM. So they must have been selling x86 machines.