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It really makes you curious what's going to come out in 45 years about the iraq war, and afghanistan etc.

by swalsh 14y ago

pstuart 14y ago
Plenty has come out already at people don't seem to care. Airliners filled with pallets of shrink-wrapped cash which is then handed out with no accounting? Go freedom fighters!
- jebblue 14y ago
  "The World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York, NY." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing "On June 26, 1993, Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the assassination attempt by the IIS on former President George H. W. Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year to commemorate a coalition victory over Iraq in the Persian Gulf War. " "In Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address, he warned Congress of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's possible pursuit of nuclear weapons: Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clin...
  - zht 14y ago
    what does what Clinton did have to do with the post you replied to?
    - jebblue 14y ago
      It is more information about the years that led up to the Iraq war, the long one, addressing the poster's comment on what else might come out. My post was to show that there's a lot out there now that happened in the 90's that seems to sometimes be lost.
    - jpwagner 14y ago
      Exactly his point. Read the history...
jebblue 14y ago
Including the stuff that took place in Iraq during the 8 year reign of Clinton. Oh, his wife was on the legal team that blew Watergate out of proportion forcing a fine and honorable president to leave office on his own accord. Bill, her husband didn't leave even after getting caught undermining the US justice system. He just rode it out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_and_conservatism_in_Latin_America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_and_conservatism_in_... "In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[52] Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,[35] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.[52] The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974."
- antidaily 14y ago
  You're comparing Monicagate to Watergate? Nice.
  - jebblue 14y ago
    I'm comparing undermining the US justice system, one president stepped down, the other just hung around. Or do you think that doing the right thing after doing the wrong thing is only something that Republicans should do?
    - pyre 14y ago
      The US justice system is pretty weak if it relies on the President to step down. Is this what you are suggesting?
    - kelnos 14y ago
      Lying about having an affair (even while under oath) is hardly "undermining the US justice system". Nixon committed treason, for crying out loud. Before he was elected, even.
      - 14y ago
aswanson 14y ago
If changing the reason for going to war three times a week (nuclear weapons, complicity with bin laden, uranium yellow cakes, etc), outing CIA agents with contrary evidence, and lying to the public on just about every other fact in the lead-up to the invasion isn't enough to be interesting to the american public, I doubt any revelations forthcoming in their 70s and 80s will be.
- mercurial 14y ago
  Not to mention torture, outsourced, contracted out or otherwise, and Guantanamo Bay. It's an unfortunate fact that however inalienable human rights are supposed to be, democratic government are only interested in their citizens'.
  - cincinnatus 14y ago
    Lip service to their citizens' rights only. They've already determined it is 'ok' to kill a US citizen with a drone purely on the presidential whim, and hold you indefinitely without trial.
    - lostlogin 14y ago
      As a non-US citizen I see this as progress - at least we have similar rights now.
burstmode 14y ago
What makes you think that the Iraq & Afghanistan wars will be over in 45 years ?

It really makes you curious what's going to come out in 45 years about the iraq war, and afghanistan etc.

by swalsh 14y ago

It really makes you curious what's going to come out in 45 years about the iraq war, and afghanistan etc.

Plenty has come out already at people don't seem to care. Airliners filled with pallets of shrink-wrapped cash which is then handed out with no accounting? Go freedom fighters!

jebblue 14y ago
"The World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York, NY." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing "On June 26, 1993, Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack on the Iraqi Intelligence Service's (IIS) principal command and control complex in Baghdad, publicly announced as retaliation for the assassination attempt by the IIS on former President George H. W. Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in April of that year to commemorate a coalition victory over Iraq in the Persian Gulf War. " "In Clinton's 1998 State of the Union Address, he warned Congress of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's possible pursuit of nuclear weapons: Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clin...
- zht 14y ago
  what does what Clinton did have to do with the post you replied to?
  - jebblue 14y ago
    It is more information about the years that led up to the Iraq war, the long one, addressing the poster's comment on what else might come out. My post was to show that there's a lot out there now that happened in the 90's that seems to sometimes be lost.
  - jpwagner 14y ago
    Exactly his point. Read the history...

jebblue 14y ago

Including the stuff that took place in Iraq during the 8 year reign of Clinton. Oh, his wife was on the legal team that blew Watergate out of proportion forcing a fine and honorable president to leave office on his own accord. Bill, her husband didn't leave even after getting caught undermining the US justice system. He just rode it out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_and_conservatism_in_Latin_America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_and_conservatism_in_... "In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[52] Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,[35] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.[52] The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974."

antidaily 14y ago
You're comparing Monicagate to Watergate? Nice.
- jebblue 14y ago
  I'm comparing undermining the US justice system, one president stepped down, the other just hung around. Or do you think that doing the right thing after doing the wrong thing is only something that Republicans should do?
  - pyre 14y ago
    The US justice system is pretty weak if it relies on the President to step down. Is this what you are suggesting?
  - kelnos 14y ago
    Lying about having an affair (even while under oath) is hardly "undermining the US justice system". Nixon committed treason, for crying out loud. Before he was elected, even.
    - 14y ago

aswanson 14y ago

If changing the reason for going to war three times a week (nuclear weapons, complicity with bin laden, uranium yellow cakes, etc), outing CIA agents with contrary evidence, and lying to the public on just about every other fact in the lead-up to the invasion isn't enough to be interesting to the american public, I doubt any revelations forthcoming in their 70s and 80s will be.

mercurial 14y ago
Not to mention torture, outsourced, contracted out or otherwise, and Guantanamo Bay. It's an unfortunate fact that however inalienable human rights are supposed to be, democratic government are only interested in their citizens'.
- cincinnatus 14y ago
  Lip service to their citizens' rights only. They've already determined it is 'ok' to kill a US citizen with a drone purely on the presidential whim, and hold you indefinitely without trial.
  - lostlogin 14y ago
    As a non-US citizen I see this as progress - at least we have similar rights now.

burstmode 14y ago

What makes you think that the Iraq & Afghanistan wars will be over in 45 years ?