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I don't understand why these changes make you switch from Chrome to Firefox. There appears to be a really prevalent attitude here on HN that you can either rea

I don't understand why these changes make you switch from Chrome to Firefox. There appears to be a really prevalent attitude here on HN that you can either really love or really hate a company. If you like it, you use all their stuff. When the switch in your mind flips and you know you must instantly start hating them, it means you must stop using every instance of their software, whether it's related or not to whatever your issues were. It seems kind of silly.

TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
Well, if you don't approve of their practises, you shouldn't keep using their products, should you?
mike-cardwell 14y ago
Chrome is created by an Ad company so that they can make more money selling Ads. People are willing to overlook this fact because they trust that Google wont put it's own desire to make profit over keeping the web open. People are losing the trust that this is the case. If somebody comes up with some new technology that makes the web better in some way, but also means it's more difficult or impossible to target advertising, do you think Google will implement it? Do you think the makers of Bing will? Am i the only one that thinks that a handful of Ad companies shouldn't be controlling how the web evolves?
- BHSPitMonkey 14y ago
  Does using Chrome or Chromium somehow serve Google and its nefarious goals?
  - ijk 14y ago
    I sure hope it serves Google's long term goals. Lest we forget, apparently Reader did not serve those goals, and got killed for it. They don't have to be nefarious, they just have to want to use you to sell ads.
  - pretzel 14y ago
    Yes - default settings of 3rd party cookies is an obvious start.
  - mike-cardwell 14y ago
    I don't see how anybody could answer that question with anything other than yes?
- saraid216 14y ago
  > Chrome is created by an Ad company so that they can make more money selling Ads. Funny. I thought their goal was to sell Chromebooks. :X
  - fizzbar 14y ago
    Chromebooks are just a means to an end: ever more ad impressions.
cremnob 14y ago
It's about taking every potential data point they can have about you away from them (and thus the ability to monetize it). I switched to Firefox just the other day after reading that article about Chrome vs Firefox and also because the dev channel seems to have a tray icon in Windows now.
- clhodapp 14y ago
  The tray icon has been coming and going for a very long time on many platforms. It seems to appear when you install extensions that are supposed to run in the background.
eCa 14y ago
I read the parent as no longer trusting Google, and if you don't trust someone - don't use their browser. It's about distrust, not hate.
simoncion 14y ago
> I don't understand why these changes make you switch from Chrome to Firefox. Did you know that the Google Chrome New Tab page will occasionally display an advertisement for an entirely unrelated Google product? The latest one that I saw was for the Pixel! (NB: I've never seen this happen in Chromium.)

TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago

Well, if you don't approve of their practises, you shouldn't keep using their products, should you?

mike-cardwell 14y ago

Chrome is created by an Ad company so that they can make more money selling Ads. People are willing to overlook this fact because they trust that Google wont put it's own desire to make profit over keeping the web open. People are losing the trust that this is the case. If somebody comes up with some new technology that makes the web better in some way, but also means it's more difficult or impossible to target advertising, do you think Google will implement it? Do you think the makers of Bing will? Am i the only one that thinks that a handful of Ad companies shouldn't be controlling how the web evolves?

BHSPitMonkey 14y ago
Does using Chrome or Chromium somehow serve Google and its nefarious goals?
- ijk 14y ago
  I sure hope it serves Google's long term goals. Lest we forget, apparently Reader did not serve those goals, and got killed for it. They don't have to be nefarious, they just have to want to use you to sell ads.
- pretzel 14y ago
  Yes - default settings of 3rd party cookies is an obvious start.
- mike-cardwell 14y ago
  I don't see how anybody could answer that question with anything other than yes?
saraid216 14y ago
> Chrome is created by an Ad company so that they can make more money selling Ads. Funny. I thought their goal was to sell Chromebooks. :X
- fizzbar 14y ago
  Chromebooks are just a means to an end: ever more ad impressions.

cremnob 14y ago

It's about taking every potential data point they can have about you away from them (and thus the ability to monetize it). I switched to Firefox just the other day after reading that article about Chrome vs Firefox and also because the dev channel seems to have a tray icon in Windows now.

clhodapp 14y ago
The tray icon has been coming and going for a very long time on many platforms. It seems to appear when you install extensions that are supposed to run in the background.

eCa 14y ago

I read the parent as no longer trusting Google, and if you don't trust someone - don't use their browser. It's about distrust, not hate.

simoncion 14y ago

> I don't understand why these changes make you switch from Chrome to Firefox. Did you know that the Google Chrome New Tab page will occasionally display an advertisement for an entirely unrelated Google product? The latest one that I saw was for the Pixel! (NB: I've never seen this happen in Chromium.)