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I sympathize with Google Reader users. I find it occasionally tiresome to be half-foot in an ecosystem. But I've come to accept that this is just the way that G
by simonsarris 14y ago
I sympathize with Google Reader users. I find it occasionally tiresome to be half-foot in an ecosystem. But I've come to accept that this is just the way that Google does things.
I love Gmail/Calendar/Maps/DamnNearEverything. I love Groups, which they've recently taken pains to hide[1] so I suspect its up soon for the chopping block. Heck I even love Google+.
All that said, at least they had the gall to kill it. One thing that pains me more than killing a product they don't want is letting one languish broken for ages.
I'm fully in the G-cosystem[2] but sadly Google Finance is nearly worthless, and only edited about once a year, usually to break something and fix it a month later.
You can't switch to a current (non-closed) holdings view where it only shows you information about stocks you own right now, instead you have to make two portfolios. You can't reorder portfolios so my real portfolios and my "lookers" are separated in an awkward list. News stories are half spam and appear out of order anyway. Finance doesn't sync well with the Android app, sometimes it finds zero portfolios and makes me make temporary mobile ones that I have to delete later.
How many Java errors are on the Finance homepage today? Just one. How about on a stock ticker page? Thirty-one. And it's still using Flash.
I don't think the Reader backlash will hurt Google. There are just some products they plainly don't care about and will continue to ignore them until somebody brushes over the "shutter" button while the rest of the company shrugs.
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[1] http://i.imgur.com/bs7i5pL.png http://i.imgur.com/bs7i5pL.png
Groups isn't even on the extended products list in the Gmail header bar, though Reader is! You have to click "Even more" to get to Groups.
[2] I cringed writing that but it was too good to let go.
- camus 14y agoI think it will hurt Google. Who use reader ? journalists , analysts , and they are pissed off. I dont recall such a huge reaction when other Google services shut down.
- danilocampos 14y agoYeah. They're furious. https://twitter.com/ginatrapani/status/312451705692385280 https://twitter.com/ginatrapani/status/312451705692385280
- jQueryIsAwesome 14y ago"Yep. And it never figured out how to handle high-vol and low-vol blogs together in any meaningful way". What I always thought but was never able to articulate so well (hi again fellow twitter user).
- sbmassey 14y agoHow would you expect it to handle high and low volume blogs together "meaningfully"? I guess I'm not really sure what the problem is: it's pretty easy to put all your high volume stuff into a single category so you can mark everything read at once, if that is the issue.
- stcredzero 14y ago> How would you expect it to handle high and low volume blogs together "meaningfully"? An app that would let me dump all high volume blogs and Twitter into the same bucket would be awesome! I guess a unified service that usefully filtered low S/N ratio feeds of all kinds would be awesome.
- vilhelm_s 14y ago>An app that would let me dump all high volume blogs and Twitter into the same bucket would be awesome! That's what google reader did for me, I subscribe to twitter feeds through RSS, label them (and other high-volue blogs) with a tag "noise", so I can easily mark them all as read. Of course, Twitter is trying to kill RSS too, subscribing to new feeds doesn't seem to work.
- stcredzero 14y ago> Of course, Twitter is trying to kill RSS too, subscribing to new feeds doesn't seem to work. What about a cloud-based app that kept synced across your devices? I wonder if it would be possible to create a client that would let you quickly read Twitter, app.net and feed content, and filter the latter two? (So long as you stay below the 100,000 user mark?)
- kanzure 14y ago> Groups isn't even on the extended products list in the Gmail header bar, though Reader is! You have to click "Even more" to get to Groups. They have been really destroying Groups for a while now. The new ui is terrible, the new url format is also bad. They got rid of instructions for emailing for subscriptions, and someone reported to me earlier today that emailing list+subscribe@googlegroups.com doesn't even work anymore.... are they just going to dump their usenet archives?
- abraham 14y agolist+subscribe@googlegroups.com still works. I used it last week.
- yesbabyyes 14y agoTo an onlooker, it seems that it could both have worked last week, and not work today.
- tomcat7run 14y agohaha, I just died.
- tomcat7run 14y agoI was replying to yesbabyyes's comment and I get -3 points? Jesus...
- olalonde 14y agoProbably because you aren't adding anything to the discussion (HN is not Reddit). See http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- Teckla 14y agoIt's probably too late to ask now (the story was posted 19+ hours ago, as I write this), but -- do you know what happened to Google Groups digest emails? They just stopped working for me a long time ago, with no communication about what happened.
- ianstormtaylor 14y agoI really wish Github would fill the Groups niche because they would do it 100x better and most of the groups I'm in are coding related anyways. Especially if they really are trying to do collaboration in general... Agreed about finance too. It's too bad it's so crappy.