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> it seems to me that as much experience as Google engineers have dealing with spam in the email world, they could come up with something feasible on XMPP as we
by cjbprime 14y ago
> it seems to me that as much experience as Google engineers have dealing with spam in the email world, they could come up with something feasible on XMPP as well.
But before they start on this research project, they might want to do something about the spam their users are getting now, right?
- mindcrime 14y agoBy breaking something fundamental about how XMPP chat works? Personally, I vote "no".
- enjo 14y agoI for one vote "yes". I was starting to receive lots of spam requests from within google talk. It was really annoying. Whatever they did it stopped and I'm glad for it.
- mindcrime 14y agoGreat, you lose one minor annoyance, and the rest of us deal with the fallout of a broken Internet. Sounds like a great tradeoff to me. What is it with modern times, where people are willing to sacrifice fundamental things, like applications that adhere to standard protocols, to gain some minute level of relief from something that's just "annoying"?
- jamespo 14y agoThat is the whole reason people use google, it's convenient. They're not stopping anyone running a personal ejabberd server.
- slashclee 14y agoThey are effectively stopping people from running personal ejabberd servers. What the hell is the point of running your own jabber server if your users can't talk to users on the largest jabber network on the planet?
- _pferreir_ 14y agoAs if they've only now suddenly realised that there are XMPP chat bots and that they might have an impact on user experience one day... One of the first things that one thinks of when designing/projecting a large-scale system should be the potential for abuse. Are you trying to convince us that Google didn't take that into account when they chose XMPP as the underlying technology for GTalk?
- cjbprime 14y agoYes. They didn't choose XMPP federation as the underlying technology -- that came later. XMPP is a nice protocol, and XMPP federation is a broken disaster with no anti-spam features.