Exactly, it's not like a loop counter variable will show up in a stack trace (even if it is a perl style trace, with values, rather than a Java style, line numb

Exactly, it's not like a loop counter variable will show up in a stack trace (even if it is a perl style trace, with values, rather than a Java style, line numbers only, stack dump). This whole debug dump issue could be avoided by saving a copy of the initial entry frame for debugging and the current frame with elipses shown between them when TCE was in effect.