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G+ can't be google reader for two reasons: 1. Information density. Magazine style / tiles / graphics etc aren't the same as single line expandable headline wit

G+ can't be google reader for two reasons: 1. Information density. Magazine style / tiles / graphics etc aren't the same as single line expandable headline with maybe 40 headlines visible per screen height. 2. Just the content. Reader didn't try to guess what you wanted to read or notify you what your friends were up to.

AndyNemmity 14y ago
The guessing and notifying that youtube keeps wanting to push is so annoying. At some point they have to learn that what are friends like has no relevance on what we like.
Evbn 14y ago
Yes. If Google wants to satisfy Reader users, they have to push back against G+ taking over everything. G+ is supposed to br about a seamless integration between products. Making all the features subservient to the Stream is putting style --no, fashion-- over substance. That is the philosophy of G+, though-- to cannibalize Google into a Facebook clone. G+ is like the evil vizier whispering in the senile monarch's ear.
shrikant 14y ago
..and you know what? I like text. I 'circled' a bunch of people from the numerous Hacker News communities on G+, and I see far too many pictures and videos in the feed. And mostly personal life stuff, like their pets, or lunch, or some trees or whatever. (This is also my current complaint with App.net, but that's a different story). I really wish there were a way to filter by post type (text and links only) in Google+, to bring it even one small step closer to replacing Reader.
- mhb 14y ago
  It would also be nice to be able to filter out videos in Picasa. Why do I want to be seeing those mixed in with my photos?
- SkyMarshal 14y ago
  This was my biggest problem with G+ and why I haven't used it since last year sometime. Facebook by comparison is a network of people you know irl, so you kinda care what random stuff they're up to. G+ on the other hand is more like long-form Twitter where you subscribe to people, whether you know them irl or not. Its network based more on shared interest than real life connection. But when people you've subscribed to because you're interested in what they have to say about programming start sharing their vacation pictures and other personal stuff, it can quickly fill up your news feed with noise. It would be really nice if G+ could implement tagging and filtering by tag, or some ML that learns what to suppress in your feed from whom, or something along those lines. Anything to enable people to continue posting whatever they want, but to allow their followers to selectively receive only the portion they're interested in.
- DannoHung 14y ago
  Hmm... maybe what they oughta let you do is filter out posts from people that go out to "Public". I don't want his public or her public or that circle's public, but if they post to a specific circle that I'm a part of, send it on.
Mahn 14y ago
> G+ can't be google reader for two reasons Don't be fooled, though, the fact that he is asking about Google Reader does not mean they intent to implement a feeds reader within G+. They most likely believe RSS is an old technology that should be phased out, so I don't think this is happening.
webwanderings 14y ago
Gmail could easily be a Reader. Email is a mechanism which drops content into your inbox. It obviously requires someone's pushing it. RSS on the other hand is a protocol which facilitates the dropping of the content into a reader. So an email client by its very nature a RSS reader (several email clients provide this feature, or at least they used to). The question is not whether G+ could be an alternate. The question is whether we are looking at the world where the RSS would become the backbone of services like Lexus Nexus which is used by media specialist and/or people with resource ($$) ... or would RSS remain a pipe which is available for average Joe to easily "get" the information however and whenever they wish.
roc 14y ago
1. The popular RSS readers all seem/seemed to be moving toward looking like Reeder and Flipboard, moreso than Google Reader's Web UI. It seems that UI is/was only necessary for a niche of the niche. 2. And yet there were non-trivial complaints Google Reader lost its original sharing/social functionality. So clearly not everyone prefers the social-less implementation. And fewer still would seem completely off-put by a social panel they can tune out and ignore (as they already were ignoring it on Google Reader's rise).

AndyNemmity 14y ago

The guessing and notifying that youtube keeps wanting to push is so annoying. At some point they have to learn that what are friends like has no relevance on what we like.

Evbn 14y ago

Yes. If Google wants to satisfy Reader users, they have to push back against G+ taking over everything. G+ is supposed to br about a seamless integration between products. Making all the features subservient to the Stream is putting style --no, fashion-- over substance. That is the philosophy of G+, though-- to cannibalize Google into a Facebook clone. G+ is like the evil vizier whispering in the senile monarch's ear.

shrikant 14y ago

..and you know what? I like text. I 'circled' a bunch of people from the numerous Hacker News communities on G+, and I see far too many pictures and videos in the feed. And mostly personal life stuff, like their pets, or lunch, or some trees or whatever. (This is also my current complaint with App.net, but that's a different story). I really wish there were a way to filter by post type (text and links only) in Google+, to bring it even one small step closer to replacing Reader.

mhb 14y ago
It would also be nice to be able to filter out videos in Picasa. Why do I want to be seeing those mixed in with my photos?
SkyMarshal 14y ago
This was my biggest problem with G+ and why I haven't used it since last year sometime. Facebook by comparison is a network of people you know irl, so you kinda care what random stuff they're up to. G+ on the other hand is more like long-form Twitter where you subscribe to people, whether you know them irl or not. Its network based more on shared interest than real life connection. But when people you've subscribed to because you're interested in what they have to say about programming start sharing their vacation pictures and other personal stuff, it can quickly fill up your news feed with noise. It would be really nice if G+ could implement tagging and filtering by tag, or some ML that learns what to suppress in your feed from whom, or something along those lines. Anything to enable people to continue posting whatever they want, but to allow their followers to selectively receive only the portion they're interested in.
DannoHung 14y ago
Hmm... maybe what they oughta let you do is filter out posts from people that go out to "Public". I don't want his public or her public or that circle's public, but if they post to a specific circle that I'm a part of, send it on.

Mahn 14y ago

> G+ can't be google reader for two reasons Don't be fooled, though, the fact that he is asking about Google Reader does not mean they intent to implement a feeds reader within G+. They most likely believe RSS is an old technology that should be phased out, so I don't think this is happening.

webwanderings 14y ago

Gmail could easily be a Reader. Email is a mechanism which drops content into your inbox. It obviously requires someone's pushing it. RSS on the other hand is a protocol which facilitates the dropping of the content into a reader. So an email client by its very nature a RSS reader (several email clients provide this feature, or at least they used to). The question is not whether G+ could be an alternate. The question is whether we are looking at the world where the RSS would become the backbone of services like Lexus Nexus which is used by media specialist and/or people with resource ($$) ... or would RSS remain a pipe which is available for average Joe to easily "get" the information however and whenever they wish.

roc 14y ago

1. The popular RSS readers all seem/seemed to be moving toward looking like Reeder and Flipboard, moreso than Google Reader's Web UI. It seems that UI is/was only necessary for a niche of the niche. 2. And yet there were non-trivial complaints Google Reader lost its original sharing/social functionality. So clearly not everyone prefers the social-less implementation. And fewer still would seem completely off-put by a social panel they can tune out and ignore (as they already were ignoring it on Google Reader's rise).