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I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)
- tomasien 14y agoAccording to the way my boss thinks, I'm sure this wouldn't take me more than a week.
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- meepmorp 14y agoPfft. I could knock this out in a weekend, maybe an all-nighter if I make some really strong coffee.
- zeroexzeroone 14y agopop some modafinil, you'll be done in 4 hours if your genetics are conducive to the drug...
- X4 14y agogeez..you don't really take such drugs, do you? Have you ever tried turkish coffee? A friend of mine is a coffee junkie, but he got a racing heart and felt immensly active after one cup. Something he never felt before and we coded until 4 in the Morning :) hehe However he'll stick to less coffeinated drinks in the future. Even coffeeine should be used in limited dosasges. So, please don't recommend drugs anymore.
- vidarh 14y agoI'm reminded of the Futurama episode where Fry drinks 300 cups of coffee, and suddenly the world appears to slow down around him.
- jgeerts 14y agoOne bottle of ritalin and a day later... tadaaa
- X4 14y agoYou're the 2nd guy in here recommending drugs. Shame on ya. Nootropics like ritalin are like steroids in the 70s. NOT studied well enough and they come with a price.
- thinkdevcode 14y agoWhats wrong with steroids? Dianabol is the breakfast of champions according to Arnold.
- raverbashing 14y agooff-topic Dianabol is really not the way it goes today ;)
- X4 14y agoYou still live in the 70s regarding your knowledge about these drugs. SARMs, siRNA and RNAi will be very popular in future - See stock valuations and research it's history. I recommend informing about these, but advise everyone to avoid them. Peptid research is in the beginnings, don't make yourself a Guinea Pig. Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARM), Small interfering RNA (siRNA) and RNA interference (RNAi) are way ahead of what you may know about this topic. The reason I know about it, is because some idiots in the Gym always kept asking me about Steroids and I didn't know anything about it. Which was frustrating and led me to inform me bottom up about everything that's necessary to know. Including talks with regular Steroid consumers. My Conclusion, taking these drugs is irresponsible and not worth it. Everything comes with it's side-effects. SARMs, siRNA and RNAi are making babysteps and there can be severe side-effects that you won't be able to lookup on a google search.
- Dystopian 14y agoA WEEK! Think about it, there are two of you working on two maybe three pages. So you're telling me that you need more than 100 hours (because of course, it's a start up, and we're on "salary" - so yeah, overtime) to build TWO PAGES! My opinion it should take one, maybe two days max. I don't think you guys have the drive to be working at a startup (<- heard this before)
- strangestchild 14y agoI had to read this three times before I realised you were being sarcastic. My blood pressure does not thank you.
- Dystopian 14y agoThink about what my blood pressure feels like every day :-/
- silasb 14y agoYour boss must also be my boss :\
- dekken_ 14y agoHow many users are you expecting?
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- wilfra 14y agoLooks ridiculous at first glance but that's actually not unreasonable. The value in Gmail/Hotmail/Yahoo is first and foremost their users. Next is the technical infrastructure to support all of those users. The front-end website and basic functionality of sending and receiving emails isn't that hard of a technical problem. Given the level of intelligence this guy appears to have, an Indian PHP dev on elance who charges $10 an hour could probably build something in 50-100 hours that would support far more users than this guy would ever be able to attract and they would both be happy with the transaction.
- aviraldg 14y ago> an indian PHP dev on elance who charges $10 an hour Stereotyping much?
- wilfra 14y agoHave you used elance? I've been posting multiple jobs per month for years and 90% of proposals I receive are PHP devs from India that charge ~$10/hour. That's not a bad thing. Many of those guys are highly skilled and I hire them often.
- analog 14y agoI heard a story from a friend who works in the oil industry. The Indian dev team had updated the software that controlled the oil flow from a field, but they'd introduced a bug that was losing $5000 (or barrels, memory fails me) a day somehow. They couldn't roll back to the previous version because they weren't using version control for the software. I've seen some balls ups from UK teams too fwiw, but nothing that approaches that level of wtf.
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- neya 14y agoYou're pointing to a highly specific example about a particular instance, about a tiny sample from an entire lot, about something that shouldn't have been outsourced in the first place and then trying to conclude in general that "therefore X group of developers sucks". I would rather label this argument with 'wtf' instead of your (pointless) example.
- kaoD 14y agoIs it really THAT unreasonable ? Throw some random open source mail server and web interface, customize et voilà!
- analog 14y agoRoundcube would probably do the job. The problem is what if the guy says "but this doesn't have feature X that gmail has, add it or I won't pay you." If you could change the spec to be "install roundcube" then maybe it wouldn't be such a bad deal, but then you're essentially doing the most important part of the work (telling him how to get what he wants) for free.
- hippich 14y agoAnd this will happen. Usually such projects get half-done and half-paid.
- elmuchoprez 14y ago1.) Set up google apps account. 2.) Turn on a custom skin. 3.) Profit?
- usaphp 14y agoLooks ridiculous at first glance...and the more I think about it - the more ridiculous it looks to me...
- tobiasu 14y agoSetup mail server, install roundcube. Done.
- cbg0 14y agoThere are plenty of projects like these on freelance websites; They either end up being a low quality clone with fewer features than the original, or never get funded to begin with.
- winestock 14y agoJust because you're not in a cubicle doesn't mean that you've escaped the Dilbert comic strip. Now that the shutdown of Google Reader is in the news, about two weeks ago, someone posted an offer on Elance for a website with a few RSS feeds posted to it. When I made a proposal asking for details, I got an e-mail essentially asking for Google Reader but with a snazzier user interface. Yup, the asking price was "less than $500." I sent an e-mail in reply pointing this out as diplomatically as I could. A few days later, I got an e-mail saying that the project had been canceled. It saddens and enrages me to ponder how many people either have so little respect for programmers or so much ignorance of programming that they think that they can get away with this. Would these people try the same thing with lawyers? Or even plumbers?
- rlpb 14y ago> Would these people try the same thing with lawyers? Or even plumbers? I'm sure that lawyers and plumbers field questions from people who don't understand what they cost all the time. It's part of doing business.
- cpursley 14y agoExactly. Developers really get their panties in a wad over this. Get over yourselves.
- winestock 14y agoI did not downvote you, nor do I think that you should have been downvoted. Sure, perhaps plumbers and lawyers get unreasonable price requests as much as programmers. Sadly, getting panties in a wad over this — in one way or another — is the only way to keep wages up. If we are not for ourselves, then who will be?
- rlpb 14y agoSupply and demand determine our wages. We compete in an international market. You can choose to refuse to take the job. But somebody somewhere may be prepared to accept a lower price, and you cannot control this. If you want to get your panties in a wad, then go right ahead. But that won't help your cause. If you want to keep your wages up, then find a market where there is a supply shortage, or increase your own quality so that you can command a higher price in the market that you're in.
- niggler 14y agoThere's a nonzero chance that this is a honeypot designed to draw out the bots or incompetent devs.
- damoncali 14y agoIf so then Elance is 90% honeypots.
- laumars 14y agoWhy not just install Roundcube[1] on top of your preferred MTA? It's free and it's going to be more polished than any $500 bespoke project. [1] http://roundcube.net/ http://roundcube.net/
- drchaos 14y agoFor $500 one could easily install roundcube, add some branding to the default skin, and still have some budget left for ramp-up support or doing some additional tweaks. From this point of view, the project and budget is actually quite reasonable.
- fduran 14y agoThat was my first thought too: a domain + Roundcube + Mailgun
- gokhan 14y agoGive the job to this guy: http://fiverr.com/farooqahmed/develop-website-for-you-in-htmlcss-on-your-instructions http://fiverr.com/farooqahmed/develop-website-for-you-in-htm...
- damoncali 14y agoTo be fair, we don't know the expected use and it says to state the features to be included. If you throw in non US labor rates, you might get something useful. Admittedly, I'm reaching. This is why I don't look for work on these sites. I'm literally better off just sitting here waiting for the phone to ring.
- nihit 14y agoJust ask this guy to send across a requirement document/ wireframes. Nip it in the bud I say :-D
- eterpstra 14y agoFor those who are now pondering a weekend project... http://twitter.github.com/flight/demo/ http://twitter.github.com/flight/demo/
- mherdeg 14y agoSee also https://www.elance.com/j/website-like-amazon/37294947/ https://www.elance.com/j/website-like-amazon/37294947/ ("I want a website like Amazon for $1000"), submitted to news.ycombinator on 14 Feb.
- bdcravens 14y agoWhy is this news? These kinds of postings have been on Elance / RentACoder/ Guru.com / etc since 2000, when I first started looking at those sites. Many of which are probably more outlandish than this.
- jiggy2011 14y agoFreelancer websites are full of things like this. "ebay clone with all features" etc. Problem is, how does one define "all features". Does it mean all the obvious features, like the ability to list an item and have people buy/bid on it. Or do they want an actual replica of ebay complete with all the anti-fraud stuff that ebay must have and all of the seller account controls etc? Obviously there's a huge difference between the two, but you won't get much more detail from them than "I just want all the features, should be simple". So yes, you can probably make an "ebay clone" in a day or two, but what happens if they refuse to pay because it doesn't have some advanced feature that ebay does?
- jasonkolb 14y agoI'm willing to pay someone up to $10-15 to rebuild the transmission on my car, but I need it by this afternoon. It also needs to be converted from manual to automatic in the process. Provide your own parts.
- yashg 14y agoThis is no exception. elance, freelancer, odesk are full of such projects. And he will get a lot of bids, someone will even be ready to do it for $100! There are lots of people out there who think building and running a web service like email or social network or even a search engine is a piece of cake! With news of one year old startups getting acquired for billions Everybody wants to be a web entrepreneur. :) During my freelancing days I have seen a lot of such requests, and they never actually get awarded because someone sensible will write a comment saying you can't build such a service for that amount and that the front end they see is just the tip of the iceberg and there are costs involved in running the servers and getting users and all. But there are some who go ahead and in fact at places like scriptcopy.com you will find clone scripts for almost anything - Facebook, eBay, Hotmail. I have seen someone selling Yahoo clone script for $20! Some even provide hosting. Go figure!
- rachelbythebay 14y agoIf they're going to pay $500 for it, give them $500 worth of work. Let's see, if you bill $150/hour, then that's 3 full hours. 3 full hours, assuming you type 120 wpm, with 10 minute breaks per hour, that's 18KB. As stupid as what I described is, I bet it would appeal to the people who think you can clone something like that for $500. Scope is everything!
- josefresco 14y agoFunny how we ridicule freelance sites like elance and their seemingly ingnorant project requests and race to the bottom pricing model yet celebrate low budget - super fast development feats of engineering like http://blog.zite.com/2013/03/14/google-reader-is-dead-so-we-rebuilt-it-for-you-in-zite-in-six-hours/ http://blog.zite.com/2013/03/14/google-reader-is-dead-so-we-...
- 18pfsmt 14y agoI'm not sure that's fair because zite obviously already had some degree of integration with Google Reader, and an elegantly enough built back-end to speed further integration (admittedly, I don't know the specifics). As a side note: I'm not a user of zite, feedly (sp?), or flipboard, and I can't stand these magazine-like interfaces. It seems to me, people that want that sort of interface never want to see the RSS acronym, nor know what it is/ how it works.
- krapp 14y ago>Project Will Given to who post complete structure details + resume I don't know what 'complete structure details' even means but I assume it means something they could toss to another developer for the excuse of paying them less and the schmucks who apply nothing at all. I've already made the mistake of completing a "test" of putting together a couple of email templates for a job that then magically never materialized after I was "awarded" it. I will point you to my github and linkedin profile, but you're not getting free work.
- nasalgoat 14y agoI am reminded of the questions I see posted on Quora with some regularity - so many that show a staggering ignorance of the most basic systems fundamentals, coming from people claiming to be professionals.