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I'm pretty much done with Google as supplier of business apps. I have to migrate our company's Google Apps account anyway because of a (domain)name change (whic

I'm pretty much done with Google as supplier of business apps. I have to migrate our company's Google Apps account anyway because of a (domain)name change (which is still hell with Google Apps anyway, you basically have to buy and setup a totally new account an migrate everything by hand or with 3rd party tools), so I might as well look for another supplier. As much as I dislike everything Microsoft, 365 currently looks well ahead of Google (everything they haven't killed yet has definitely stopped evolving), and has certainly proven to be a more reliable partner for business use.

chapel 14y ago
You can add alternate domains to Google Apps accounts which can work just as the main domain. So you don't have to migrate anything, it is the same account just acknowledges and accepts the alternate domain.
- vacri 14y ago
  You can alias the main domain, or you can add a new separate domain with its own settings, both of which we use on the one account.
- onemorepassword 14y ago
  No they don't. This is the reason why this is such a hell. Yes, the account acknowledges the alternate name, but Google keeps publicly replacing it with the primary name as soon as you do anything. This is not just ugly and confusing from a marketing and branding perspective, it leads to all kinds of complications with software that reacts to email-addresses, or services that are coupled to Google Apps.
  - carl689 14y ago
    Perhaps I am not following 100%, but I believe we have done this without this issue for years with google apps. We have one primary domain and 15 alias domains. Email Example: user@alias.com gets an email, when they reply it stays set to the alias, it doesn't change to the primary domain.
    - csixty4 14y ago
      Gmail sends a Sender: header with the account's primary email address, which some email programs treat as the "actual" sender. Some mail programs display this as "From alias@example.com on behalf of primay@example.net" and then those programs use the primary as the return address. According to Google, they don't include this header if you upgrade to Google Apps for Business.
- OGinparadise 14y ago
  You can add alternate domains to Google Apps accounts which can work just as the main domain. Until they decide--all of the sudden--that you can't any more (assuming you can now). His point is that Google is unreliable as a long term partner and should not be counted on.
olegp 14y ago
Why jump out of the frying pan into the fire? At StartHQ (https://starthq.com https://starthq.com) we are trying to build a directory of high quality business web apps from smaller companies such as the ones run by many of us here. Perhaps there's something there that fits your requirements?
chmars 14y ago
Does Microsoft offer a convenient migration path from Google Apps for Business to Office 365? I have not found anything on such a migration path so far, only more or less desperate forum posts … Google Apps also have the advantage that you can mix free and paid accounts. We have for example some employees who share their business calendars (paid accounts) with their family members (free accounts).
akx 14y ago
FYI: You'll have to do the same new account + migration thing with O365 if you wish to change plans (from P1 to E1, for instance).

chapel 14y ago

You can add alternate domains to Google Apps accounts which can work just as the main domain. So you don't have to migrate anything, it is the same account just acknowledges and accepts the alternate domain.

vacri 14y ago
You can alias the main domain, or you can add a new separate domain with its own settings, both of which we use on the one account.
onemorepassword 14y ago
No they don't. This is the reason why this is such a hell. Yes, the account acknowledges the alternate name, but Google keeps publicly replacing it with the primary name as soon as you do anything. This is not just ugly and confusing from a marketing and branding perspective, it leads to all kinds of complications with software that reacts to email-addresses, or services that are coupled to Google Apps.
- carl689 14y ago
  Perhaps I am not following 100%, but I believe we have done this without this issue for years with google apps. We have one primary domain and 15 alias domains. Email Example: user@alias.com gets an email, when they reply it stays set to the alias, it doesn't change to the primary domain.
  - csixty4 14y ago
    Gmail sends a Sender: header with the account's primary email address, which some email programs treat as the "actual" sender. Some mail programs display this as "From alias@example.com on behalf of primay@example.net" and then those programs use the primary as the return address. According to Google, they don't include this header if you upgrade to Google Apps for Business.
OGinparadise 14y ago
You can add alternate domains to Google Apps accounts which can work just as the main domain. Until they decide--all of the sudden--that you can't any more (assuming you can now). His point is that Google is unreliable as a long term partner and should not be counted on.

olegp 14y ago

Why jump out of the frying pan into the fire? At StartHQ (https://starthq.com https://starthq.com) we are trying to build a directory of high quality business web apps from smaller companies such as the ones run by many of us here. Perhaps there's something there that fits your requirements?

chmars 14y ago

Does Microsoft offer a convenient migration path from Google Apps for Business to Office 365? I have not found anything on such a migration path so far, only more or less desperate forum posts … Google Apps also have the advantage that you can mix free and paid accounts. We have for example some employees who share their business calendars (paid accounts) with their family members (free accounts).

akx 14y ago

FYI: You'll have to do the same new account + migration thing with O365 if you wish to change plans (from P1 to E1, for instance).