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Are you serious? I'm Chinese and I'm like "Why would they do that?" Before we launch into the Chinese hacking rethoric, let's looks at EADS, which was being at

Are you serious? I'm Chinese and I'm like "Why would they do that?" Before we launch into the Chinese hacking rethoric, let's looks at EADS, which was being attacked from some location in China. But why did we manage to find out? It's either that the hackers behind the attack weren't up to snuff to cover their tracks (maybe set something up outside of China?), or it's the Chinese government trying to demonstrate that they are indeed capable of digitally attacking foreign targets. And if you got any familarity with actual Chinese people, you know they won't spill their hand just to show you what they can. That'd be...very unchinese. Yes, Chinese people aren't overt when they cut deals. But trying to disrupt a minor target (yes, it's Github, but in the scope of the entire US, it's one service, and there are several alternatives) in a Country that owes you a lot of doe...what sense would that make? Also why only Github? Why not any of the other Repository services? Your chinese conspiracy hypothesis really doesn't hold up well, does it?

teawithcarl 14y ago
Solstice - I speak Chinese and Japanese fluently (for 25 years, and read the newspaper in either language), and have live in both countries for a total of 7 years. China has already been caught DDOS'ing Github, during the New Years travelling period - February this year. The ostensible reason was a flaw in some "train scheduling software", at the peak travel period. That software which had a bug resided at Github. This is well documented. I have professionally followed the China hacking phenomenon for years, and am involved in software/security - so this is not conjecture/conspiracy. China is the worst cyber aggressor on Earth, having stolen the entire Gaia password system from Google on Christmas Day 2010, amongst many events. The deep level of corruption in China is amongst the worst on Earth, and is unmistakeably related to the blatant, corrupt cyber attacks 攻击 on a large percentage of businesses and infrastructure worldwide. Additionally, you do not have a monopoly on loving and defending China. I love China very much (and fight for its reputation) - one does not research and live in China for a lifetime without growing to love it.
- solistice 14y ago
  Fair enough, those are really insightful points, and I'll check them later. I'm pretty quick to jump to defend China, because i usually find sheer ignorance, and not a well researched point behind whatever anti-chinese statements there are. "China is evil cause it takes our jobs", "Chinese eat sh*tty food, like dogs and cats", "Chinese are evil because they are all, every single peasant, covertly plotting to hack our computers, every single one of them". And when you get bombared with stuff like this all the time, your trigger finger becomes quicker. Also, no offense intended, but your choice of language made it seem like a giant conspiracy, which I would object to believing in given the lack of proof or points in your first post. And on a site note, I'm actually really intrested why the chinese would indulge in such attacks. Economical harm to a Nation you're codependent on doesn't strike me as politically savy. What incentives are there for Chinese hackers to attack sites like Github, and the other busineses and infrastructures you mentioned (Google is obvious, so you can skip on that).

teawithcarl 14y ago

Solstice - I speak Chinese and Japanese fluently (for 25 years, and read the newspaper in either language), and have live in both countries for a total of 7 years. China has already been caught DDOS'ing Github, during the New Years travelling period - February this year. The ostensible reason was a flaw in some "train scheduling software", at the peak travel period. That software which had a bug resided at Github. This is well documented. I have professionally followed the China hacking phenomenon for years, and am involved in software/security - so this is not conjecture/conspiracy. China is the worst cyber aggressor on Earth, having stolen the entire Gaia password system from Google on Christmas Day 2010, amongst many events. The deep level of corruption in China is amongst the worst on Earth, and is unmistakeably related to the blatant, corrupt cyber attacks 攻击 on a large percentage of businesses and infrastructure worldwide. Additionally, you do not have a monopoly on loving and defending China. I love China very much (and fight for its reputation) - one does not research and live in China for a lifetime without growing to love it.

solistice 14y ago
Fair enough, those are really insightful points, and I'll check them later. I'm pretty quick to jump to defend China, because i usually find sheer ignorance, and not a well researched point behind whatever anti-chinese statements there are. "China is evil cause it takes our jobs", "Chinese eat sh*tty food, like dogs and cats", "Chinese are evil because they are all, every single peasant, covertly plotting to hack our computers, every single one of them". And when you get bombared with stuff like this all the time, your trigger finger becomes quicker. Also, no offense intended, but your choice of language made it seem like a giant conspiracy, which I would object to believing in given the lack of proof or points in your first post. And on a site note, I'm actually really intrested why the chinese would indulge in such attacks. Economical harm to a Nation you're codependent on doesn't strike me as politically savy. What incentives are there for Chinese hackers to attack sites like Github, and the other busineses and infrastructures you mentioned (Google is obvious, so you can skip on that).