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> I don't use ad blockers, so I know just how awful many ads are. What is your reason for not using AdBlock? > [...] I wish people would use it more carefully.

by krenel 14y ago

> I don't use ad blockers, so I know just how awful many ads are. What is your reason for not using AdBlock? > [...] I wish people would use it more carefully. What does "carefully" in this context means? These are genuine questions. I always recommend AdBlock to all my friends and everybody is delighted with it. I would like to have a point against AdBlock, though. Some times people come to me to install "that wired program that removes Ads in youtube"... you know what I mean.

DanBC 14y ago
Use carefully means "consider turning off ad block on the pages that you enjoy, so long as those pages are using reasonable adverts". I don't use ad block because some people get paid by me seeing the ad, even if I never ever click the ads. I know I've never bought anything from an ad. I'm unlikely to ever click an ad but it does sometimes happen. (But this just proves to me that I'm never going to buy anything as a result of an ad).
- weirdcat 14y ago
  AdBlock is the first extension I install in a fresh browser. I never click on ads anyway, so PPC ads are wasted on me. Unless they're large and intrusive, I don't tend to look at them either (banner blindness), so showing them to me doesn't help advertisers anyway. I feel that usually ads ruin the experience for me far more than it would be justified by the $0.003 the site earns, so I can't say I feel bad. A perfect situation for me would be to be able to pay those sites the amount they earn by showing me ads, without me seing them. I'd add a site to a list in AdBlock or some other extension; the site wouldn't show me the ads and ruin my experience, getting the $0.003 (automatically) from me, not the advertiser. Too bad such nanopayments (well, formally millipayments) are far from being simple.
  - petercooper 14y ago
    It's OK because publishers have found a way around the masses doing this. "Native" advertising, a.k.a. sponsored content. Publishers wanna eat and it's a great way around ad blocking.
    - mehrzad 14y ago
      >"Native" advertising, a.k.a. sponsored content Which is fine. If you're gonna have an ad I can't avoid but doesn't significantly slow down page load, fine with me.
- omd 14y ago
  >consider turning off ad block on the pages that you enjoy I never understood that logic. If you don't enjoy a website then you shouldn't visit it. That way you will only visit websites that you do enjoy, so you have no reason to use ad block. If you're browsing websites that you've never visited before then you shouldn't be using ad block at all until you've decided if you enjoy it or not. If you do then you should make a list of each website you visit with ad block enabled and send each of them compensation for the costs they made for your free entertainment.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    About visiting websites that you've never visited before. It's understandable why people have ads turned off. I don't know if they have ads or not; I don't know what ad networks they're using; I don't know if the ads will have sound or not; I don't know if the ads are secure or serving malware. I chose not to run an ad blocker, but when you have smiley ads that shout "Hello!" at you, or that mosquito ad, well, advertisers really need to put pressure on the creators of those lousy ads to just stop doing it.
- krenel 14y ago
  I understand your point but in my case I don't like Ads and the propouse of the ads itself - they hack you brain and make you to buy things you problably don't need and you are not aware that even exists. Like everybody that surfs the internet nowadays, I have the "Brain-Ad-Filter" but that don't means that some Ads can be really annoying sometimes. Not having AdBlock installed means that you are OK with the Ads and Ads Companies because you are not opting out. The only downside is that the content creator is not receiving a little amount of money for my visit. That's right. And it's a pitty. But, most of the time, I would not pay parsonally most of the pages I visit with my money, and the fact that the creator of the content gets paid by a Ad company thanks to an arrangement that have done is something I don't care. If you really like the content of a page and you want to reward the author, send him some real moeny, or a beer (I have done it and it's awesome!).
  - m0nty 14y ago
    > they hack you brain and make you to buy things you problably don't need This a thousand times. I dumped my TV in 2006 and since I use AdBlock I don't see many ads - maybe when I go to the shops or at a friend's house. Thing is, I just don't have the urge to go and buy things any more. I've probably saved a fortune.
    - psionski 14y ago
      I'm doing the same (no TV, no radio and AdBlock), but found out this actually makes me more vulnerable in the situations where I can't escape the ads - IRL promotions, running TVs in bars, etc. I just sit there, staring at a washing machine commercial, not even moving... It's horrible. Otherwise, I haven't bought anything I didn't really need in years :P Although there's another test I do to stop myself from thinking I "need" something - whether I'll still enjoy it and use it after one year (or two).
      - mokus 14y ago
        The same happens to me, but I think it has the opposite of the intended effect. The "brain hack" does indeed work better at capturing my attention, but it just makes it all the more sickening to me and creates a strong negative association with the product. I suspect it even makes me more likely to actively avoid a product I would have otherwise bought.
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Kesty 14y ago
The point against AdBlock is that it will block ads from website you like and that make most, if not all, their moneys from ads revenue. You enjoy "free" content from someone and you block the only way they make enough money to stay alive and keep giving you this "free" content.
- icebraining 14y ago
  On the other hand, most ads are pay-per-click and some of us never click ads, so there's no real difference for the site. That said, I don't use Adblock either.
  - Kesty 14y ago
    On smaller website that use Advertising networks like adsense most ads are pay-per-click. On bigger website with a dedicated sale team most if not all ads are CPM payd per impression. Edit: Also I don't really buy the "I've never in my life click on a website".
    - DanBC 14y ago
      > Also I don't really buy the "I've never in my life click on a website". No, really, a lot of people just don't ever click on ads. They don't even really see the ads. There are sometimes parts of websites that I subconsciously filter out because I'm used to seeing ads in that area or they've made that bit look a bit too much like an ad. For more extreme view-points there's the Boulder Pledge, and some people really do see any form of advertising as a type of spam. Like I say, this is a minority extreme viewpoint, but it does exist.
      - Kesty 14y ago
        I agree but, as you sayd, is a minority. Most people that say are not influenced by ads actually are even if they don't even notice. And I'm confident that most of the people that are using adblock are not in that minority. If you are not influenced by ADS because advertisement has no effect on you so much that you don't even notice why bother blocking them out ?
Kiro 14y ago
I want to experience a site the way it was intended to be, not a manipulated version. When you create a site the placement of ads is a vital part of the actual design. Besides, nowadays with all the remarketing going on I am actually shown ads I care about.

by krenel 14y ago

DanBC 14y ago

Use carefully means "consider turning off ad block on the pages that you enjoy, so long as those pages are using reasonable adverts". I don't use ad block because some people get paid by me seeing the ad, even if I never ever click the ads. I know I've never bought anything from an ad. I'm unlikely to ever click an ad but it does sometimes happen. (But this just proves to me that I'm never going to buy anything as a result of an ad).

weirdcat 14y ago
AdBlock is the first extension I install in a fresh browser. I never click on ads anyway, so PPC ads are wasted on me. Unless they're large and intrusive, I don't tend to look at them either (banner blindness), so showing them to me doesn't help advertisers anyway. I feel that usually ads ruin the experience for me far more than it would be justified by the $0.003 the site earns, so I can't say I feel bad. A perfect situation for me would be to be able to pay those sites the amount they earn by showing me ads, without me seing them. I'd add a site to a list in AdBlock or some other extension; the site wouldn't show me the ads and ruin my experience, getting the $0.003 (automatically) from me, not the advertiser. Too bad such nanopayments (well, formally millipayments) are far from being simple.
- petercooper 14y ago
  It's OK because publishers have found a way around the masses doing this. "Native" advertising, a.k.a. sponsored content. Publishers wanna eat and it's a great way around ad blocking.
  - mehrzad 14y ago
    >"Native" advertising, a.k.a. sponsored content Which is fine. If you're gonna have an ad I can't avoid but doesn't significantly slow down page load, fine with me.
omd 14y ago
>consider turning off ad block on the pages that you enjoy I never understood that logic. If you don't enjoy a website then you shouldn't visit it. That way you will only visit websites that you do enjoy, so you have no reason to use ad block. If you're browsing websites that you've never visited before then you shouldn't be using ad block at all until you've decided if you enjoy it or not. If you do then you should make a list of each website you visit with ad block enabled and send each of them compensation for the costs they made for your free entertainment.
- DanBC 14y ago
  About visiting websites that you've never visited before. It's understandable why people have ads turned off. I don't know if they have ads or not; I don't know what ad networks they're using; I don't know if the ads will have sound or not; I don't know if the ads are secure or serving malware. I chose not to run an ad blocker, but when you have smiley ads that shout "Hello!" at you, or that mosquito ad, well, advertisers really need to put pressure on the creators of those lousy ads to just stop doing it.
krenel 14y ago
I understand your point but in my case I don't like Ads and the propouse of the ads itself - they hack you brain and make you to buy things you problably don't need and you are not aware that even exists. Like everybody that surfs the internet nowadays, I have the "Brain-Ad-Filter" but that don't means that some Ads can be really annoying sometimes. Not having AdBlock installed means that you are OK with the Ads and Ads Companies because you are not opting out. The only downside is that the content creator is not receiving a little amount of money for my visit. That's right. And it's a pitty. But, most of the time, I would not pay parsonally most of the pages I visit with my money, and the fact that the creator of the content gets paid by a Ad company thanks to an arrangement that have done is something I don't care. If you really like the content of a page and you want to reward the author, send him some real moeny, or a beer (I have done it and it's awesome!).
- m0nty 14y ago
  > they hack you brain and make you to buy things you problably don't need This a thousand times. I dumped my TV in 2006 and since I use AdBlock I don't see many ads - maybe when I go to the shops or at a friend's house. Thing is, I just don't have the urge to go and buy things any more. I've probably saved a fortune.
  - psionski 14y ago
    I'm doing the same (no TV, no radio and AdBlock), but found out this actually makes me more vulnerable in the situations where I can't escape the ads - IRL promotions, running TVs in bars, etc. I just sit there, staring at a washing machine commercial, not even moving... It's horrible. Otherwise, I haven't bought anything I didn't really need in years :P Although there's another test I do to stop myself from thinking I "need" something - whether I'll still enjoy it and use it after one year (or two).
    - mokus 14y ago
      The same happens to me, but I think it has the opposite of the intended effect. The "brain hack" does indeed work better at capturing my attention, but it just makes it all the more sickening to me and creates a strong negative association with the product. I suspect it even makes me more likely to actively avoid a product I would have otherwise bought.
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Kesty 14y ago

The point against AdBlock is that it will block ads from website you like and that make most, if not all, their moneys from ads revenue. You enjoy "free" content from someone and you block the only way they make enough money to stay alive and keep giving you this "free" content.

icebraining 14y ago
On the other hand, most ads are pay-per-click and some of us never click ads, so there's no real difference for the site. That said, I don't use Adblock either.
- Kesty 14y ago
  On smaller website that use Advertising networks like adsense most ads are pay-per-click. On bigger website with a dedicated sale team most if not all ads are CPM payd per impression. Edit: Also I don't really buy the "I've never in my life click on a website".
  - DanBC 14y ago
    > Also I don't really buy the "I've never in my life click on a website". No, really, a lot of people just don't ever click on ads. They don't even really see the ads. There are sometimes parts of websites that I subconsciously filter out because I'm used to seeing ads in that area or they've made that bit look a bit too much like an ad. For more extreme view-points there's the Boulder Pledge, and some people really do see any form of advertising as a type of spam. Like I say, this is a minority extreme viewpoint, but it does exist.
    - Kesty 14y ago
      I agree but, as you sayd, is a minority. Most people that say are not influenced by ads actually are even if they don't even notice. And I'm confident that most of the people that are using adblock are not in that minority. If you are not influenced by ADS because advertisement has no effect on you so much that you don't even notice why bother blocking them out ?

Kiro 14y ago

I want to experience a site the way it was intended to be, not a manipulated version. When you create a site the placement of ads is a vital part of the actual design. Besides, nowadays with all the remarketing going on I am actually shown ads I care about.