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> CalDAV API will become available for whitelisted developers (only) Wasn't a big brouhaha about windows phone only supporting Exchange protocol and not the op

by yread 14y ago

> CalDAV API will become available for whitelisted developers (only) Wasn't a big brouhaha about windows phone only supporting Exchange protocol and not the open standard that's used by everyone: CalDAV? Oh, and now Google is discontinuing it! Let's see how much longer Exchange will last...

spinchange 14y ago
More like let's see how much longer Google Apps will last in the enterprise. I am NOT a big MS fan, but Windows & Office is still a major factor for businesses and a big part of the Apps allure was that it was interoperable with existing Windows/Office deployments. As enterprises using Apps upgrade and find that they no longer sync with any of their brand new software, people are going to be very upset - particularly those with egg on their face who sold their company on Google Apps (like yours truly)
- fludlight 14y ago
  Would you be interested in a Google Calendar API to CalDAV translator program or service?
  - bruceboughton 14y ago
    That seems like a backward step.
- Encosia 14y ago
  No kidding. Compared to my clients that choose Exchange-friendly services like Office 365, the clients on Google Apps (paid or not) have been feeling a world of pain since the Office 2013 upgrade. I remember reading a post on some official Google blog late last year talking about how they were going to aggressively target and steal Microsoft's purchase in the enterprise. In reality, they're struggling horribly to even retain the customers they've coaxed over, in my experience. Whether they like it or not, ActiveSync is the most pervasive protocol for syncing mail, calendars, and contacts across a wide range of devices. It's a travesty that they're choosing a holy war against Microsoft instead of supporting what would serve their users best.
ragesh 14y ago
I think it's insane. When they announced they were ditching ActiveSync because it's proprietary they were selling us on CalDAV support because it's a "standard". That kind of made sense and it was moving the world towards a better place. Now they're saying they don't like CalDAV either, so just use the Google Calendar API. I don't see how this is any different from the proprietariness of ActiveSync. Sigh, I'm not really sure I trust Google to do the right thing anymore.
- MrScruff 14y ago
  The downside of Google's product strategy of throwing things against a wall is becoming clear. This post is from 3 days ago: http://winsource.com/2013/03/11/caldav-and-carddav-support-for-windows-phone-expected-to-arrive-by-june-30th/ http://winsource.com/2013/03/11/caldav-and-carddav-support-f... So even as Microsoft is working to implement support for Google calendar syncing, Google pulls the rug out. This also leaves iOS users with no Google calendar syncing mechanism. If Google is open, they have a strange way of showing it.
  - ragesh 14y ago
    It just makes no sense at all. I don't get how they decide to do a complete u-turn on the CardDAV issue in just a couple of months. It's almost like they're doing this just to aggravate Windows Phone users. I hope someone at Microsoft is paying attention. They should just step up to the plate now and announce IMAP + CalDAV + CardDAV support on their services for those who want it. I'd switch in a blink.

by yread 14y ago

spinchange 14y ago

More like let's see how much longer Google Apps will last in the enterprise. I am NOT a big MS fan, but Windows & Office is still a major factor for businesses and a big part of the Apps allure was that it was interoperable with existing Windows/Office deployments. As enterprises using Apps upgrade and find that they no longer sync with any of their brand new software, people are going to be very upset - particularly those with egg on their face who sold their company on Google Apps (like yours truly)

fludlight 14y ago
Would you be interested in a Google Calendar API to CalDAV translator program or service?
- bruceboughton 14y ago
  That seems like a backward step.
Encosia 14y ago
No kidding. Compared to my clients that choose Exchange-friendly services like Office 365, the clients on Google Apps (paid or not) have been feeling a world of pain since the Office 2013 upgrade. I remember reading a post on some official Google blog late last year talking about how they were going to aggressively target and steal Microsoft's purchase in the enterprise. In reality, they're struggling horribly to even retain the customers they've coaxed over, in my experience. Whether they like it or not, ActiveSync is the most pervasive protocol for syncing mail, calendars, and contacts across a wide range of devices. It's a travesty that they're choosing a holy war against Microsoft instead of supporting what would serve their users best.

ragesh 14y ago

I think it's insane. When they announced they were ditching ActiveSync because it's proprietary they were selling us on CalDAV support because it's a "standard". That kind of made sense and it was moving the world towards a better place. Now they're saying they don't like CalDAV either, so just use the Google Calendar API. I don't see how this is any different from the proprietariness of ActiveSync. Sigh, I'm not really sure I trust Google to do the right thing anymore.

MrScruff 14y ago
The downside of Google's product strategy of throwing things against a wall is becoming clear. This post is from 3 days ago: http://winsource.com/2013/03/11/caldav-and-carddav-support-for-windows-phone-expected-to-arrive-by-june-30th/ http://winsource.com/2013/03/11/caldav-and-carddav-support-f... So even as Microsoft is working to implement support for Google calendar syncing, Google pulls the rug out. This also leaves iOS users with no Google calendar syncing mechanism. If Google is open, they have a strange way of showing it.
- ragesh 14y ago
  It just makes no sense at all. I don't get how they decide to do a complete u-turn on the CardDAV issue in just a couple of months. It's almost like they're doing this just to aggravate Windows Phone users. I hope someone at Microsoft is paying attention. They should just step up to the plate now and announce IMAP + CalDAV + CardDAV support on their services for those who want it. I'd switch in a blink.