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I can't agree more. But there are real concerns with sharing. Even though people move around with their phones and laptops all the time, network protocols stil

by ajasmin 14y ago

I can't agree more. But there are real concerns with sharing. Even though people move around with their phones and laptops all the time, network protocols still want to trust the LAN. Things like rogue DHCP servers, unencrypted HTTP traffic and unsecured devices (like printers) are real problems. Bandwith caps and accountability are also of concern.

taproot 14y ago
These things were built into the network with good reasons. As were the ways to secure yourself. Just because it is insecure by design doesnt mean laws should be in place to protect those who show no desire to understand or use technology in the way it was designed. Should cars speed be limited based on the speed limit just because a few speed? That is what you are talking about
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- ajasmin 14y ago
  When did I say a things about laws? By accountability, I mean: Does IP adress = the person who pays the ISP bill? I suppose legislation could help to clarify things in that regard but that has little to do with understanding the technology. What I'm saying though, is that (like marssaxman) I'd like more people to share their connection but I understand why many don't given the technical issues, bandwidth bill, and legal uncertainties.
  - crististm 14y ago
    "Does IP adress = the person who pays the ISP bill" No - because "absence of bug reports does not mean there are no bugs" Feel free to replace "bug" with "security breach"
    - ajasmin 14y ago
      I agree. But if I'm sharing my WiFi connection, a "security breach" can't be defined as "someone using my IP address" as I'm also sharing that willingly through my NAT router. Or, are you going to turn off the public WiFi and pretend there was a breach should you get into trouble?
      - crististm 14y ago
        I mean, if I have to prove that there was a breach, I couldn't. The whole thing is "it's your network you go to jail". That's all they got. And it is not correct, because they can't prove that it was me or someone else, the same way I can't. But if the argument is only on network ownership, then I loose because now the burden of proof is on me and I can't prove anything.

by ajasmin 14y ago

taproot 14y ago

These things were built into the network with good reasons. As were the ways to secure yourself. Just because it is insecure by design doesnt mean laws should be in place to protect those who show no desire to understand or use technology in the way it was designed. Should cars speed be limited based on the speed limit just because a few speed? That is what you are talking about

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ajasmin 14y ago
When did I say a things about laws? By accountability, I mean: Does IP adress = the person who pays the ISP bill? I suppose legislation could help to clarify things in that regard but that has little to do with understanding the technology. What I'm saying though, is that (like marssaxman) I'd like more people to share their connection but I understand why many don't given the technical issues, bandwidth bill, and legal uncertainties.
- crististm 14y ago
  "Does IP adress = the person who pays the ISP bill" No - because "absence of bug reports does not mean there are no bugs" Feel free to replace "bug" with "security breach"
  - ajasmin 14y ago
    I agree. But if I'm sharing my WiFi connection, a "security breach" can't be defined as "someone using my IP address" as I'm also sharing that willingly through my NAT router. Or, are you going to turn off the public WiFi and pretend there was a breach should you get into trouble?
    - crististm 14y ago
      I mean, if I have to prove that there was a breach, I couldn't. The whole thing is "it's your network you go to jail". That's all they got. And it is not correct, because they can't prove that it was me or someone else, the same way I can't. But if the argument is only on network ownership, then I loose because now the burden of proof is on me and I can't prove anything.