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Show HN: Real-time Wiki
- tarr11 14y agoCan you explain how this is different / better than Google Docs? I can't tell from the home page.
- ronreiter 14y agoIf Google docs is an alternative to Word, then this is an alternative to Sharepoint. As opposed to collaborative document authoring, collaborative knowledge management allows things like collaborative document arrangement, a better permission system, links between documents, better searchability and more.
- bengillies 14y agoIndeed. Google Docs suffers a lot from discoverability and, while you can collaboratively edit on it, it feels too much like a locked down blob of content and so suffers from a lot of the same problems that Word suffers from (in my experience with it at least): it's hard to know when it's changed; when someone updates it, you get an email; when someone writes something, they have to "share" it with with you before you know it exists; WYSIWYG is a terrible way of editing content. I'm not sure how many of these problems this solves, but Wikis in general solve many of them.
- modarts 14y agoSharePoint dev here. I fully realize that SharePoint is not the greatest platform out there on a number of counts; but I can't really see this as being anything close to an alternative to SharePoint. It would definitely serve as a HUGE upgrade to its native Wiki functionality, however.
- ceejayoz 14y agoOver Quota This application is temporarily over its serving quota. Please try again later.
- teddyknox 14y agoAlso the site is apparently "temporarily over quota".
- ronreiter 14y agoPlease wait a few minutes, it'll take a few minutes to re-activate.
- niggler 14y agoGot past over-quota issue and gave google permissions, but Chrome OSX shows nothing when you login. JS console shows: Uncaught ReferenceError: goog is not defined socket.js:43 Uncaught Error: Load timeout for modules: text!templates/context_menu.html require.js:26 http://requirejs.org/docs/errors.html#timeout http://requirejs.org/docs/errors.html#timeout
- Skoofoo 14y agoVery neat! I have thought quite a bit about how to make wikis easier to work with, but I don't know if I'll need to anymore because you pretty much nailed it! Real-time markdown editing is a great idea. A few things: * Making an ordered list right after an unordered one and vice versa doesn't render properly. * New pages always become children of the first page, and I don't know how to turn them into root pages or make them in the first place. * Signing out doesn't work. * Clicking away while editing a page title doesn't save it. * Public links and history are on top of my wishlist for this.
- ronreiter 14y agoThanks!!!
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- edtechdev 14y agoThis would be very popular indeed if a WYSIWYG editor was used instead of a markup language. There has been study after study showing how the wiki markup syntax is a hurdle to participation on wikipedia, to the point where wikipedia is now finally, after 12 years, working on a wysiwyg editor: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/21/jimmy-wales-on-new-editing-platform-this-is-epically-important/ http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/21/jimmy-wales-on-new-editing-... There are so many free and open source wysiwyg editors that can be easily plugged into a site: aloha, tinymce, ckeditor, etc.
- tadfisher 14y agoAnd none of them work on mobile.
- ronreiter 14y agoI agree - the purpose of this product is to check if the overall concept is needed. And if so, I will invest in making it a WYSIWYG editor.
- lh7777 14y agoBut it's Markdown instead of MediaWiki syntax. Markdown's got a lot of momentum right now, and for good reason.
- alexchamberlain 14y agoWe really need to get people out of the habit of using WYSIWYG editors.
- lightningstorm 14y agoI love how you improved over bootstrap to create nice and very aesthetically pleasing design.
- balajiviswanath 14y agoVery cool design and concept. I loved how you used Bootstrap for this.
- luchs 14y agoI get an exception in Opera: Uncaught exception: document.body is not defined -- do not create socket from script in <head>.
- ronreiter 14y agoI actually did not check it on Opera. Will check. Thanks! In any case, it doesn't load well because it loads a lot of Javascript asynchronously (no production version yet). Just refresh it.
- seletz 14y agoOh man -- this almost fits a perfectly for me. I just wish that reStructured text was supported, but I could live with markdown. Yeah, I'm old-school. It would be awesome if this service supported dropbox and stored all files there -- using a simple directory structure. This would allow me to edit my files using VIM during the day, and I'd have a super easy search UI. I currently keep daily notes on dropbox using rst files (one per day) -- so this would fit my workflow perfectly.
- ronreiter 14y agoreStructured text will be eventually supported if people will like document.ly's workflow scheme. The service should support Dropbox eventually, but the structure of the documents is kind of a problem to arrange as a set of files and folders.
- seletz 14y agoHmm - why would the document structure difficult to map to a filesystem structure? Just map every document type to a folder, and the contents of the documents to individual files in the folder.
- C0d3r 14y agoSounds like this would be a good software for you: http://lurst.github.com/Pendium/ http://lurst.github.com/Pendium/
- meej 14y agoHow might this compare with HackPad?
- ronreiter 14y agoThe concept isn't much different, but the permission model is. document.ly is very similar to Asana and Trello (allowing every user to participate in multiple projects and inviting anyone in the world to view and edit any document), while Hackpad aims for a standard B2B marketing strategy.
- kibibu 14y agoSmall nitpick that may affect your search results - your meta tag description is "Bootsrap theme".
- ronreiter 14y agoThanks :)
- Johnyma22 14y agoAlso see Etherpad, ShareJS and Hackpad
- Bjoern 14y agoIs there some Open Source solution in the similar spirit as document.ly? Would love this, but has to be running inside the company only.
- wturner 14y agoWhen I signed out of the application it didn't forward me to a logged-out verification page or give me a model that tells me I've signed out. It kind of just hung there without letting me edit anymore. When I sign out I like a very robust verification that tells me I've signed out. It looks great regardless.
- onecreativenerd 14y agoThe export feature would be really awesome if it could handle larger documents! Also, sharing a document with someone else seems to throw an exception when they try to sign in...
- duck 14y agoIs this going to be freeium? I really recommend putting a pricing page up even if you don't know what the pricing will be, just to make it clear... hard to even try something (and I want to b/c it looks very useful) without knowing that important detail.
- jes5199 14y agoI've been seeing demos of this sort of thing since 2003 and yet no real-time collaborative editor has actually caught on. Does anyone have any intuition as to why? I'm baffled - it sounds like a good idea to me.
- phpfour 14y agoThis looks promising. However, I'm getting the following when I'm trying to login using my Google account: Error: Server Error The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
- lukifer 14y agoFinally, the real-time Markdown wiki I've been waiting for. Love it. What's the business model? I would be sad to see this acquihired and disappear in a puff of smoke.
- ronreiter 14y agoA SaaS freemium model for large teams, and server deployment for large organizations (non-cloud solution).