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> Social janitorial work This is the most hilarious euphemism for "censorship" I've ever heard.

mnicole 14y ago
If you took it as such, sure. I'm talking about trying to recycle useless peanut gallery commentary into more productive conversation. The guy that comes into her comment thread acknowledging he was one of the called out tweets goes on to say that he was admittedly kicking someone because they were down. What value does jumping on such a bandwagon add to the real issues besides reinforcing that behavior in others?
- weareconvo 14y ago
  I'm not sure trying to assign "value" to Tweets is terribly productive, either.
  - mnicole 14y ago
    And I'm not exactly sure how productive it is that your failure in reading comprehension has resulted in two posts wherein you've tried to belittle my point by emphasizing it. Relax and have a better rest of your day.
    - weareconvo 14y ago
      > you've tried to belittle my point by emphasizing it. No, no I didn't. I was just making a joke.
thwest 14y ago
Your comment is wrong and rude. Oh look, I just did some social janitorial work. Was your comment somehow deleted by my act? Should I presume that Convo provides no moderation mechanisms because they would constitute censorship?
- weareconvo 14y ago
  I took "social janitorial work" to mean cleaning up other peoples' comments, which really isn't possible without altering or deleting them. If it was used to mean "indicating disapproval", then I have absolutely no problem with it.
  - potatolicious 14y ago
    The original context was: > "Regardless of gender, because karma exists, people'd rather not risk their worthless points over being the guy that says "Hey, that's not cool." Social janitorial work isn't pretty..." Which doesn't read like it implies editing or deletion.
- GHFigs 14y ago
  Oh look, I just did some social janitorial work. You called someone on the Internet "wrong" and "rude", which is about as far as you can get from "work" without losing consciousness.
princess3000 14y ago
Disagree, there's a fair amount of "social janitorial work" that goes on here at HN. I mean, I just signed up to comment here today (have been reading for a while) and the community here is based on something similar: "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation." People here are pretty strict about the types of comments that fly; for example, memes and dumb jokes are not something that the community here accepts. Personally I think that's great and the site is better for it, but it's not censorship to hold the other people in your forum or message board to certain standards of communication.
- weareconvo 14y ago
  > it's not censorship to hold the other people in your forum or message board to certain standards of communication. It really depends on the method used. Simply using downvotes to indicate disapproval, while not a route I would personally go, is, in my opinion, a productive way to discourage negative content.
nollidge 14y ago
I love how people deleting blog comments is labeled "censorship" as though it's morally similar to a government suppressing speech. It is not remotely "censorship" for a private individual to stop you from producing content in the spaces they control. They owe you nothing.

If you took it as such, sure. I'm talking about trying to recycle useless peanut gallery commentary into more productive conversation. The guy that comes into her comment thread acknowledging he was one of the called out tweets goes on to say that he was admittedly kicking someone because they were down. What value does jumping on such a bandwagon add to the real issues besides reinforcing that behavior in others?

weareconvo 14y ago
I'm not sure trying to assign "value" to Tweets is terribly productive, either.
- mnicole 14y ago
  And I'm not exactly sure how productive it is that your failure in reading comprehension has resulted in two posts wherein you've tried to belittle my point by emphasizing it. Relax and have a better rest of your day.
  - weareconvo 14y ago
    > you've tried to belittle my point by emphasizing it. No, no I didn't. I was just making a joke.

thwest 14y ago

Your comment is wrong and rude. Oh look, I just did some social janitorial work. Was your comment somehow deleted by my act? Should I presume that Convo provides no moderation mechanisms because they would constitute censorship?

weareconvo 14y ago
I took "social janitorial work" to mean cleaning up other peoples' comments, which really isn't possible without altering or deleting them. If it was used to mean "indicating disapproval", then I have absolutely no problem with it.
- potatolicious 14y ago
  The original context was: > "Regardless of gender, because karma exists, people'd rather not risk their worthless points over being the guy that says "Hey, that's not cool." Social janitorial work isn't pretty..." Which doesn't read like it implies editing or deletion.
GHFigs 14y ago
Oh look, I just did some social janitorial work. You called someone on the Internet "wrong" and "rude", which is about as far as you can get from "work" without losing consciousness.

princess3000 14y ago

Disagree, there's a fair amount of "social janitorial work" that goes on here at HN. I mean, I just signed up to comment here today (have been reading for a while) and the community here is based on something similar: "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation." People here are pretty strict about the types of comments that fly; for example, memes and dumb jokes are not something that the community here accepts. Personally I think that's great and the site is better for it, but it's not censorship to hold the other people in your forum or message board to certain standards of communication.

weareconvo 14y ago
> it's not censorship to hold the other people in your forum or message board to certain standards of communication. It really depends on the method used. Simply using downvotes to indicate disapproval, while not a route I would personally go, is, in my opinion, a productive way to discourage negative content.

nollidge 14y ago

I love how people deleting blog comments is labeled "censorship" as though it's morally similar to a government suppressing speech. It is not remotely "censorship" for a private individual to stop you from producing content in the spaces they control. They owe you nothing.