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/r/linux has a huge archlinux bias (which includes me). So take those results with a grain of salt.
by pavanky 14y ago
/r/linux has a huge archlinux bias (which includes me). So take those results with a grain of salt.
- kristaps 14y agoI was indeed surprised by those numbers, thanks for explaining.
- nXqd 14y agoBut there is no doubt that Arch Linux community is an interesting one. Ubuntu bored me and I had a great time playing with Arch :) And those numbers surprise me as well.
- mixmastamyk 14y agoWith all the regressions, I never feel bored by ubuntu. ;)
- nXqd 14y agohehe :P I still choose Ubuntu as my server's distro :P
- codemac 14y agoWell.. It was the /r/linux survey? Arch seems to have the Haskell problem: avoiding success at all costs. Although, many see this as a feature and not a bug.
- sirclueless 14y agoHow so? In that it makes breaking changes often? I like its model better than other distros: rather than duplicating effort backporting bugfixes to make old versions stable and secure, they report everything upstream and push for it to get fixed there. I understand not wanting to sysadmin a large number of Arch machines though.
- martius 14y agoI'm an Archlinux user, and BC aren't happening that often (seriously). Some big moves (likes switching to systemd) required some work, but still ran smoothly. For my own computers (including the laptop I work with) it's almost perfect.
- laumars 14y agoNormally I'd agree with you, but the last 12 months have seen some pretty disruptive changes (the glibc update caught me out more than systemd had). Arch is far from perfect, and I'm not convinced I like the direction it's heading in (re systemd), but that's a plauge for the wider ecosystem than an Arch-specific issue. However Arch definitely find a nice balance between "hands on" and "lazy administration" for desktop users. Sadly though, systemd was the last straw that saw the start of my migration away from Arch on the servers (now a balance of FreeBSD and Debian; depending on the requirements of that server). As with everything though, it's all personal preference. So I expect plenty of people to have a different opinion (and different experiences as well).
- ffreire 14y agoWhat's worked for me has been to read the archlinux.org homepage before I upgrade (maybe once every few days). If there are any breaking changes they are listed along with the recommended method for handling them. If I somehow fat finger a command and it doesn't go smoothly then all I have to do is jump in #archlinux and my issue is resolved in under an hour. YMMV of course but I've found the entire Arch experience to be pleasant and it fits my work flow, but I understand that it doesn't fit everyone's.
- mapleoin 14y agothey report everything upstream and push for it to get fixed there That's what most ditros do. Fedora and openSUSE anyway. While we wait for upstream to fix the issue and release a new version, we prefer to have a working package, though.
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- praptak 14y agoYeah, count me in the feature-not-a-bug camp. It is avoiding popularity rather than success. And I parse it rather as "avoid some nasty costs that could boost popularity" not as "spare no costs when actively decreasing popularity".
- dschiptsov 14y agoYeah, systemd and grub2 are Haskell-ish way of making everything in a "proper way", "not for everyone".))) But, see, you can almost type-check your tens of grub2 confs!
- Aardwolf 14y agoWhere does this /r/linux bias to Archlinux come from? I use Archlinux, but never visit reddit, hacker news and slashdot already waste enough of my internet time :)
- pavanky 14y agoI am not sure why, but /r/linux has a unusually high number of archlinux users compared to other samples around the internet. It is second only to Ubuntu there. May be it just speaks about the kind of people on reddit also using Linux. May be arch linux is _underrepresented_ everywhere else.
- JimmaDaRustla 14y agoI'm Arch Linux and I've never been on /r/linux, and I'm on Reddit everyday ;)