Thanks for the response. By "not a very fun environment" I was referring to the Wasabi programming environment, not the people/social/office environment. Sorry

Thanks for the response. By "not a very fun environment" I was referring to the Wasabi programming environment, not the people/social/office environment. Sorry for the ambiguity. I've read most of your essays, and the FogCreek environment seems amazing - you've clearly done a wonderful job with that. And you're right - I am inferring a lot from not very much information. But, imagine that I'm a hypothetical programmer that was considering working at Fog Creek (I'm probably not up to your standards, but bear with me ;-)). You publicly stated that your compiler infers type information from variable names. That, in conjunction with some other worrisome things I've read about Wasabi, might be enough to push me some other way. Most of the other places I'd consider working have decent enough benefits (salary, offices, food, etc) that they really aren't a deciding factor. When I look for a job, my primary concern is how interesting/fun the problems/technologies are. As long as all the other stuff is decent, I kind of disregard it.