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"Easier said than done" is itself easier said than backed up.

eksith 14y ago
I've been where some of these people are. I haven't been outright homeless and sleeping outdoors, but once upon a time I did have everything I own to fit basically in the same area as half a mattress. In the town I was in at the time, the only comfort was that I knew were food and basic services were. You just don't up and leave those behind cause it "might" be easier elsewhere. In that kind of atmosphere, I used my school library to learn web programming as much as possible, since our CS class was only teaching basic C++ (PHP just reached 3.0), and somehow, I scraped together enough cash (mostly borrowed) to put up a small website. By some miracle, I found work as a designer and with the basics I learned on several forums and with my pirated copy of Photoshop 5, I slowly made enough cash to pay rent and finally move to some place to stretch my limbs out. It's a slow and painful transition that's impossible to do if you just "take their ambition somewhere else". No, I nurtured my ambition where I was until I could actually get somewhere else. Empathy is a terribly scarce commodity it seems.
- ahoyhere 14y ago
  "Empathy is a terribly scarce commodity it seems." Not at all. The commenter was talking about something quite different than the article. The commenter was talking about the kids from the midwest etc. who move to San Francisco to strike it rich on the sweet oil fields of VC, which is the opposite of being stuck there because you are too broke to move.
  - eksith 14y ago
    I came to the U.S. for exactly the same reasons. I could have stayed where I was and lived a fairly comfortable life without too much worry, but there was gold in them hills and I aimed to get it. So, yeah, the situation described was pretty much the same. As I said... empathy.
atdrummond 14y ago
"I've been where some of these people are. I haven't been outright homeless and sleeping outdoors, but once upon a time I did have everything I own to fit basically in the same area as half a mattress. In the town I was in at the time, the only comfort was that I knew were food and basic services were. You just don't up and leave those behind cause it "might" be easier elsewhere." Perhaps I misread the thread but most everyone here appears to be quite empathetic to the problems raised by high housing costs. I'm relatively certain the parent was referring to the entrepreneurial set rather than those who cannot currently (and will be even less able to in the future) afford to live in San Francisco. If anything living outside SV might have made the process you went through easier if you could avoid a large portion of your earnings going solely to housing.
- eksith 14y ago
  That's the thing, we don't all often have a choice of leaving where were presently are. Its easy to think about leaving SV (or NY for that matter), but even if most of your earnings are going toward housing, moving isn't easy. And I felt OP was being trite by only looking at it through his perspective (the entrepreneurial set), whereas the article was about the poor.

I've been where some of these people are. I haven't been outright homeless and sleeping outdoors, but once upon a time I did have everything I own to fit basically in the same area as half a mattress. In the town I was in at the time, the only comfort was that I knew were food and basic services were. You just don't up and leave those behind cause it "might" be easier elsewhere. In that kind of atmosphere, I used my school library to learn web programming as much as possible, since our CS class was only teaching basic C++ (PHP just reached 3.0), and somehow, I scraped together enough cash (mostly borrowed) to put up a small website. By some miracle, I found work as a designer and with the basics I learned on several forums and with my pirated copy of Photoshop 5, I slowly made enough cash to pay rent and finally move to some place to stretch my limbs out. It's a slow and painful transition that's impossible to do if you just "take their ambition somewhere else". No, I nurtured my ambition where I was until I could actually get somewhere else. Empathy is a terribly scarce commodity it seems.

ahoyhere 14y ago
"Empathy is a terribly scarce commodity it seems." Not at all. The commenter was talking about something quite different than the article. The commenter was talking about the kids from the midwest etc. who move to San Francisco to strike it rich on the sweet oil fields of VC, which is the opposite of being stuck there because you are too broke to move.
- eksith 14y ago
  I came to the U.S. for exactly the same reasons. I could have stayed where I was and lived a fairly comfortable life without too much worry, but there was gold in them hills and I aimed to get it. So, yeah, the situation described was pretty much the same. As I said... empathy.

atdrummond 14y ago

"I've been where some of these people are. I haven't been outright homeless and sleeping outdoors, but once upon a time I did have everything I own to fit basically in the same area as half a mattress. In the town I was in at the time, the only comfort was that I knew were food and basic services were. You just don't up and leave those behind cause it "might" be easier elsewhere." Perhaps I misread the thread but most everyone here appears to be quite empathetic to the problems raised by high housing costs. I'm relatively certain the parent was referring to the entrepreneurial set rather than those who cannot currently (and will be even less able to in the future) afford to live in San Francisco. If anything living outside SV might have made the process you went through easier if you could avoid a large portion of your earnings going solely to housing.

eksith 14y ago
That's the thing, we don't all often have a choice of leaving where were presently are. Its easy to think about leaving SV (or NY for that matter), but even if most of your earnings are going toward housing, moving isn't easy. And I felt OP was being trite by only looking at it through his perspective (the entrepreneurial set), whereas the article was about the poor.