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I think you have a valid point about exploited labor, but I think you're conflating education and essay writing. An educational degree is supposed to be about

by mustpax 18y ago

I think you have a valid point about exploited labor, but I think you're conflating education and essay writing. An educational degree is supposed to be about learning, not about of how many tests you have taken, homework assignments completed, essays turned in. I mean, when I was in college, I was highly aware of my credit requirements too and planned for them. My point is that the tests, the assignments, credit requirements all are simply proxy measurements of learning. Learning is what really matters. By gaming the system, and skipping the actual learning, the rich and lazy students are not getting anything in return either. I guess it's a little naive but I'd like to believe that if you really got nothing out of your education, it will show. The paper only gets you so far.

electromagnetic 18y ago
A chimp is still a chimp, even if it's wearing a business suit. Basically, a moron will still be a moron even if they have all the paper to get into a job. There's no doubt a few people who can get by in a job despite not being the smartest, but once companies start catching on I expect there'll be lots more loop holes to fire people.
jibiki 18y ago
But everything's a proxy for everything. Employers don't really want educated employees, they just use the college degree as a proxy for the skills and qualities they actually want. The college degree itself doesn't certify learning or the qualities desired by employers; it just certifies that you found a way to make it through college. Ultimately, anything anybody does is largely based on luck, their ability to game the system, who their friends are, etc. If some rich kid has an essay written for him, he's just equaling out the luck some other rich kid had in getting an easy teacher. Personally, I found that my ability to write papers decreased as I wrote more of them. In that sense, I didn't learn anything by writing; in fact, I unlearned things. Maybe I would be a better writer if I had outsourced my papers.

by mustpax 18y ago

electromagnetic 18y ago

A chimp is still a chimp, even if it's wearing a business suit. Basically, a moron will still be a moron even if they have all the paper to get into a job. There's no doubt a few people who can get by in a job despite not being the smartest, but once companies start catching on I expect there'll be lots more loop holes to fire people.

jibiki 18y ago

But everything's a proxy for everything. Employers don't really want educated employees, they just use the college degree as a proxy for the skills and qualities they actually want. The college degree itself doesn't certify learning or the qualities desired by employers; it just certifies that you found a way to make it through college. Ultimately, anything anybody does is largely based on luck, their ability to game the system, who their friends are, etc. If some rich kid has an essay written for him, he's just equaling out the luck some other rich kid had in getting an easy teacher. Personally, I found that my ability to write papers decreased as I wrote more of them. In that sense, I didn't learn anything by writing; in fact, I unlearned things. Maybe I would be a better writer if I had outsourced my papers.