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A big heads up for anyone thinking of switching. Bootstrap 3 "Drops IE7/FF3x support entirely." ref: http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2012/12/10/bootstrap-3-plans/

A big heads up for anyone thinking of switching. Bootstrap 3 "Drops IE7/FF3x support entirely." ref: http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2012/12/10/bootstrap-3-plans/ http://blog.getbootstrap.com/2012/12/10/bootstrap-3-plans/

lowboy 14y ago
A big heads up to those people who still support ie7, that is. Google and Facebook dropped support a while ago, and ie7's usage share is around 0.6-2.0% globally. http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/ http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/ http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combined-na-monthly-201202-201302 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combine...
- lukifer 14y ago
  IE7 doesn't cause nearly the same scale of problems that IE6 did; I don't think 1% is small enough to justify ignoring it entirely. (I suppose it depends on whether it degrades gracefully or becomes unusable.)
  - bcks 14y ago
    Indeed, I'm starting a responsive site design project that will have a large target audience in China... where some 20% of users are still on IE6. Looks like I'll be testing both Bootstrap and Foundation.
    - adlpz 14y ago
      Heh, good luck doing responsive on IE6 without going crazy!
- camus 14y ago
  I hope you understand that global usage is totally irrelevant, when as a web developer you need to target a specific audience. If your audience is public businesses ie7 shares whill not be just 1% of your target. If you care only about people using browsers at home,then you are not doing your job.
  - lowboy 14y ago
    I hope you understand that global usage is totally relevant, when as a web developer you don't have a specific audience to target. Can you elaborate on usage stats of "public businesses" and where you got those from? If you have usage stats on your audience, then use them. Otherwise, go with the global usage, or at least your country/continent.
    - __david__ 14y ago
      Are you saying web developers aren't developing to a specific target audience? Or do you mean that if you don't have metrics yet then you might as well use someone's global numbers?
      - lowboy 14y ago
        The latter.

lowboy 14y ago

A big heads up to those people who still support ie7, that is. Google and Facebook dropped support a while ago, and ie7's usage share is around 0.6-2.0% globally. http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/ http://clicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/versions/ http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combined-na-monthly-201202-201302 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combine...

lukifer 14y ago
IE7 doesn't cause nearly the same scale of problems that IE6 did; I don't think 1% is small enough to justify ignoring it entirely. (I suppose it depends on whether it degrades gracefully or becomes unusable.)
- bcks 14y ago
  Indeed, I'm starting a responsive site design project that will have a large target audience in China... where some 20% of users are still on IE6. Looks like I'll be testing both Bootstrap and Foundation.
  - adlpz 14y ago
    Heh, good luck doing responsive on IE6 without going crazy!
camus 14y ago
I hope you understand that global usage is totally irrelevant, when as a web developer you need to target a specific audience. If your audience is public businesses ie7 shares whill not be just 1% of your target. If you care only about people using browsers at home,then you are not doing your job.
- lowboy 14y ago
  I hope you understand that global usage is totally relevant, when as a web developer you don't have a specific audience to target. Can you elaborate on usage stats of "public businesses" and where you got those from? If you have usage stats on your audience, then use them. Otherwise, go with the global usage, or at least your country/continent.
  - __david__ 14y ago
    Are you saying web developers aren't developing to a specific target audience? Or do you mean that if you don't have metrics yet then you might as well use someone's global numbers?
    - lowboy 14y ago
      The latter.