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So the idea is to create special events for women in tech so that they are not special any more? Honestly I see that argument as flawed. Gender issues do come

by eLobato 14y ago

So the idea is to create special events for women in tech so that they are not special any more? Honestly I see that argument as flawed. Gender issues do come into play when you segregate people like this. Some women like to go to these events, some don't. Have you ever thought about how do men feel? Or just because they are generally in a different position it doesn't matter if they're discriminated against? This thing sounds to me like trying to justify robbing a thief, one automatically becomes a thief after doing it no matter how much sugar you want to use to coat the action.

edmccard 14y ago
>So the idea is to create special events for women in tech so that they are not special any more? In the sense that once there are more women in tech, being a woman in tech will be normal, instead of noteworthy or "special". >Gender issues do come into play when you segregate people like this. Not for the attendees, who don't have to worry about other people at the event treating them differently based on their gender. >Have you ever thought about how do men feel? Or just because they are generally in a different position it doesn't matter if they're discriminated against? What discrimination? Are there men whose careers will suffer, or who will be looked down upon, because they weren't able to attend one of these events? To make an analogy: suppose food banks or soup kitchens only provided help to people below a certain income level. Is that "discrimination" against all the people who want to eat there but can't because they have too much money? Is it unfair that someone who gets food from a food bank is also allowed to shop at regular grocery stores with everyone else? >This thing sounds to me like trying to justify robbing a thief... No one is being robbed. This is not about trying to make things worse for men, but about making them better for women.

by eLobato 14y ago

edmccard 14y ago

>So the idea is to create special events for women in tech so that they are not special any more? In the sense that once there are more women in tech, being a woman in tech will be normal, instead of noteworthy or "special". >Gender issues do come into play when you segregate people like this. Not for the attendees, who don't have to worry about other people at the event treating them differently based on their gender. >Have you ever thought about how do men feel? Or just because they are generally in a different position it doesn't matter if they're discriminated against? What discrimination? Are there men whose careers will suffer, or who will be looked down upon, because they weren't able to attend one of these events? To make an analogy: suppose food banks or soup kitchens only provided help to people below a certain income level. Is that "discrimination" against all the people who want to eat there but can't because they have too much money? Is it unfair that someone who gets food from a food bank is also allowed to shop at regular grocery stores with everyone else? >This thing sounds to me like trying to justify robbing a thief... No one is being robbed. This is not about trying to make things worse for men, but about making them better for women.