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> For me, I'm not sure how productive all this gender hand-wringing really is. Demographic dramatically over-represented in government, corporate boards, start

> For me, I'm not sure how productive all this gender hand-wringing really is. Demographic dramatically over-represented in government, corporate boards, startup founders, growth industries, etc unconcerned about status quo. And there's the problem.

obstacle1 14y ago
So you choose to ignore the nuances of the poster's argument, instead criticizing it based on the fact that the author is (you think) part of an over-represented demographic? The points can't possibly be valid, since they were written by a middle-class white male? Is your own bigotry bleeding through, or have I misread you?
eric_the_read 14y ago
I read it as, "I'm not sure this is the best way to solve the problem," which is a very different thing to "there isn't a problem," or "the problem isn't all that important."
eric_the_read 14y ago
I read it as, "I'm not sure this is the best way to solve the problem," which is a very different thing to "there isn't a problem," or "the problem isn't all that important."
burntsushi 14y ago
So the GP's argument is wrong because you assume the poster is part of a over-represented demographic? If I've understood your implication correctly, then it's an ad hominem of the genetic fallacy variety.
barry-cotter 14y ago
die younger, less socially connected, more likely to go bankrupt, more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, more likely to commit suicide, less likely to finish all levels of education, more likely to be incarcerated. And there's the problem.
- arcwhite 14y ago
  All the examples you cite are relevant to an individual; they do not stop the gender as a whole exerting their voice in halls of power. (You also end up mixing a lot of other weird demographic data in there that could be caused by existing entrenched gender roles, e.g. women on the whole tend to live longer because most militaries in the world don't have women soldiers!) Women, as a gender, don't get as much of a say in how things are run as men. That's something that we all suffer for.

obstacle1 14y ago

So you choose to ignore the nuances of the poster's argument, instead criticizing it based on the fact that the author is (you think) part of an over-represented demographic? The points can't possibly be valid, since they were written by a middle-class white male? Is your own bigotry bleeding through, or have I misread you?

eric_the_read 14y ago

I read it as, "I'm not sure this is the best way to solve the problem," which is a very different thing to "there isn't a problem," or "the problem isn't all that important."

eric_the_read 14y ago

I read it as, "I'm not sure this is the best way to solve the problem," which is a very different thing to "there isn't a problem," or "the problem isn't all that important."

burntsushi 14y ago

So the GP's argument is wrong because you assume the poster is part of a over-represented demographic? If I've understood your implication correctly, then it's an ad hominem of the genetic fallacy variety.

barry-cotter 14y ago

die younger, less socially connected, more likely to go bankrupt, more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, more likely to commit suicide, less likely to finish all levels of education, more likely to be incarcerated. And there's the problem.

arcwhite 14y ago
All the examples you cite are relevant to an individual; they do not stop the gender as a whole exerting their voice in halls of power. (You also end up mixing a lot of other weird demographic data in there that could be caused by existing entrenched gender roles, e.g. women on the whole tend to live longer because most militaries in the world don't have women soldiers!) Women, as a gender, don't get as much of a say in how things are run as men. That's something that we all suffer for.