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Looks like they skipped over two open source XMPP+OTR clients for iPhone/Android: ChatSecure (https://chatsecure.org https://chatsecure.org) and Gibberbot http

Looks like they skipped over two open source XMPP+OTR clients for iPhone/Android: ChatSecure (https://chatsecure.org https://chatsecure.org) and Gibberbot https://guardianproject.info/apps/gibber/ https://guardianproject.info/apps/gibber/ Disclosure: I am the original author of ChatSecure.

dmix 14y ago
I've tried using Gibberbot with some friends. It is pretty unreliable sometimes. I think it may be an issue with OTR in general. I feel like IM encryption still isn't a problem that has been fully solved yet on android. (Haven't checked out ChatSecure, looks good.)
- tshtf 14y ago
  What problems have you had with Gibberbot? It's been rock solid for me with a decent XMPP server, and even works reasonably well when proxied through Tor (Orbot). I've had no issues with OTR either.
  - dmix 14y ago
    Both sides occasionally got scrambled messages. Sometimes messages wouldn't show up at all and had to be resent. I googled the issues a few times and there seems to be a lot of similar complaints from other users of all OTR apps (like PigdinOTR). I may have been some mistakenly from another gtalk app running or older android phones. One big UX issue is making sure both people are using it always.
    - tshtf 14y ago
      Ah, there's big issues with OTR with users who are logged in more than one location. OTRv2 didn't work well with that, but I think OTRv3 may have fixes...
claudius 14y ago
I guess the best point about these is that they are actually (or hopefully?) somewhat standardised - XMPP with OTR works perfectly fine on the desktop, albeit only for IM. Inventing a new protocol to provide essentially the same features appears a little unnecessary - at least the IM part could have reused OTR with voice calls using some other encryption (possibly based on the keys negotiated via OTR).

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Looks like they skipped over two open source XMPP+OTR clients for iPhone/Android: ChatSecure (https://chatsecure.org https://chatsecure.org) and Gibberbot http

by chrisballinger 14y ago

dmix 14y ago
I've tried using Gibberbot with some friends. It is pretty unreliable sometimes. I think it may be an issue with OTR in general. I feel like IM encryption still isn't a problem that has been fully solved yet on android. (Haven't checked out ChatSecure, looks good.)
- tshtf 14y ago
  What problems have you had with Gibberbot? It's been rock solid for me with a decent XMPP server, and even works reasonably well when proxied through Tor (Orbot). I've had no issues with OTR either.
  - dmix 14y ago
    Both sides occasionally got scrambled messages. Sometimes messages wouldn't show up at all and had to be resent. I googled the issues a few times and there seems to be a lot of similar complaints from other users of all OTR apps (like PigdinOTR). I may have been some mistakenly from another gtalk app running or older android phones. One big UX issue is making sure both people are using it always.
    - tshtf 14y ago
      Ah, there's big issues with OTR with users who are logged in more than one location. OTRv2 didn't work well with that, but I think OTRv3 may have fixes...
claudius 14y ago
I guess the best point about these is that they are actually (or hopefully?) somewhat standardised - XMPP with OTR works perfectly fine on the desktop, albeit only for IM. Inventing a new protocol to provide essentially the same features appears a little unnecessary - at least the IM part could have reused OTR with voice calls using some other encryption (possibly based on the keys negotiated via OTR).