At its core, web development is about taking some user input, validating it, throwing it in a database, and displaying it again (perhaps slightly modified) to u

At its core, web development is about taking some user input, validating it, throwing it in a database, and displaying it again (perhaps slightly modified) to users. That's a fairly simple concept, and frameworks should reflect that. Maybe most HN startups are that, but web development _at it's core_ certainly isn't limited to CRUD apps.