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Antigen is to zsh, what Vundle is to vim

51 points by chanced 14y ago

chanced 14y ago
I'm in no way affiliated with the project. I just thought it needed some more attention because it is awesome.
JulianWasTaken 14y ago
I've seen antigen before, thing is, zsh plugins, especially useful ones, are few and far between. I have ~30 plugins installed with Vundle, and regularly add and play with new ones. For zsh I have exactly two (syntax highlighting and one I'm forgetting at the moment) and I can't remember the last time I saw another that looked useful.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  The big difference as I see it is that the primary hassle with plugins in Vim, the fact that plugins normally all get dropped into a single directory and mixed around in such a way that they are nearly impossible to remove, doesn't really exist for zsh. You just source files wherever you happen to put them. The features Vundle has that surpass Pathogen are also the features that I don't really consider that valuable.
  - JulianWasTaken 14y ago
    Agreed (on your first point), that's definitely another reason I haven't considered using antigen. The main feature Vundle has over pathogen for me is that I don't ever want to manage a git submodule when not forced.
DrJ 14y ago
I would've thought that Antigen would've been more like Pathogen for vim. Apparently, I am behind the times.
- schabernakk 14y ago
  Well I guess the intent is the same but it looks a lot more like Vundle (or Bundler). You just have to define the package name in a textfile (like with Bundler) instead of managing git submodules or downloading plugins another way into their own folder.
DrJ 14y ago
I would've thought that Antigen would've been more like Pathogen for vim. Apparently, I am behind the times.
argarg 14y ago
It doesn't work the same way but I use this and like it: https://github.com/sorin-ionescu/prezto https://github.com/sorin-ionescu/prezto
- chanced 14y ago
  Thanks, I appreciate the heads up. I prefer the Vundle style approach personally but options are always great :)
- sharat87 14y ago
  Antigen can pull plugins (or modules as prezto calls them) from prezto too. This is a recently added feature which might break occasionally. I personally don't use the prezto loading features in Antigen.
schabernakk 14y ago
So the longterm goal of this would be to replace oh-my-zsh and it's host all plugins in one repository and hope robyrussel merges the change request? Sounds pretty good if this works out I think. Are there any obvious downsides?
js-coder 14y ago
I started using antigen for my dotfiles (https://github.com/js-coder/dotfiles https://github.com/js-coder/dotfiles) a while ago, and it's really awesome. However it does make sourcing `~/.zshrc` pretty slow.
- pekk 14y ago
  that seems like a big disadvantage, considering how often it is sourced in a working day
  - wrboyce 14y ago
    There is some work on trying to speed things up, check out https://github.com/zsh-users/antigen/pull/37 https://github.com/zsh-users/antigen/pull/37 (or my fork, https://github.com/wrboyce/antigen https://github.com/wrboyce/antigen) [edit: fix typo]
bglusman 14y ago
Just for reference, Mat Schaffer has had a similar project for about a year, same basic goal: https://github.com/matschaffer/zundle https://github.com/matschaffer/zundle He also uses it to build a nice default zsh profile here: https://github.com/matschaffer/zsh-matschaffer https://github.com/matschaffer/zsh-matschaffer
northisup 14y ago
zprezto, 'nuf said.
chanced 14y ago
Woah, the hackernews effect is quite impressive. The github project more than doubled in stars (now at 280) over the past 6 hours since posting this.
sharat87 14y ago
Author here. I'm late here, but if there are any questions, I'll answer. Seeing the github stars shoot up, I guessed HN happened to the project. Here we are :)

51 points by chanced 14y ago

I'm in no way affiliated with the project. I just thought it needed some more attention because it is awesome.

I've seen antigen before, thing is, zsh plugins, especially useful ones, are few and far between. I have ~30 plugins installed with Vundle, and regularly add and play with new ones. For zsh I have exactly two (syntax highlighting and one I'm forgetting at the moment) and I can't remember the last time I saw another that looked useful.

jlgreco 14y ago
The big difference as I see it is that the primary hassle with plugins in Vim, the fact that plugins normally all get dropped into a single directory and mixed around in such a way that they are nearly impossible to remove, doesn't really exist for zsh. You just source files wherever you happen to put them. The features Vundle has that surpass Pathogen are also the features that I don't really consider that valuable.
- JulianWasTaken 14y ago
  Agreed (on your first point), that's definitely another reason I haven't considered using antigen. The main feature Vundle has over pathogen for me is that I don't ever want to manage a git submodule when not forced.

DrJ 14y ago

I would've thought that Antigen would've been more like Pathogen for vim. Apparently, I am behind the times.

schabernakk 14y ago
Well I guess the intent is the same but it looks a lot more like Vundle (or Bundler). You just have to define the package name in a textfile (like with Bundler) instead of managing git submodules or downloading plugins another way into their own folder.

DrJ 14y ago

I would've thought that Antigen would've been more like Pathogen for vim. Apparently, I am behind the times.

argarg 14y ago

It doesn't work the same way but I use this and like it: https://github.com/sorin-ionescu/prezto https://github.com/sorin-ionescu/prezto

chanced 14y ago
Thanks, I appreciate the heads up. I prefer the Vundle style approach personally but options are always great :)
sharat87 14y ago
Antigen can pull plugins (or modules as prezto calls them) from prezto too. This is a recently added feature which might break occasionally. I personally don't use the prezto loading features in Antigen.

schabernakk 14y ago

So the longterm goal of this would be to replace oh-my-zsh and it's host all plugins in one repository and hope robyrussel merges the change request? Sounds pretty good if this works out I think. Are there any obvious downsides?

js-coder 14y ago

I started using antigen for my dotfiles (https://github.com/js-coder/dotfiles https://github.com/js-coder/dotfiles) a while ago, and it's really awesome. However it does make sourcing `~/.zshrc` pretty slow.

pekk 14y ago
that seems like a big disadvantage, considering how often it is sourced in a working day
- wrboyce 14y ago
  There is some work on trying to speed things up, check out https://github.com/zsh-users/antigen/pull/37 https://github.com/zsh-users/antigen/pull/37 (or my fork, https://github.com/wrboyce/antigen https://github.com/wrboyce/antigen) [edit: fix typo]

bglusman 14y ago

Just for reference, Mat Schaffer has had a similar project for about a year, same basic goal: https://github.com/matschaffer/zundle https://github.com/matschaffer/zundle He also uses it to build a nice default zsh profile here: https://github.com/matschaffer/zsh-matschaffer https://github.com/matschaffer/zsh-matschaffer

northisup 14y ago

zprezto, 'nuf said.

chanced 14y ago

Woah, the hackernews effect is quite impressive. The github project more than doubled in stars (now at 280) over the past 6 hours since posting this.

sharat87 14y ago

Author here. I'm late here, but if there are any questions, I'll answer. Seeing the github stars shoot up, I guessed HN happened to the project. Here we are :)