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So it seems that you have to provide exactly zero proof and your word (in a good faith) is enough to take a repository down. There is no way to verify anything

by rplnt 14y ago

So it seems that you have to provide exactly zero proof and your word (in a good faith) is enough to take a repository down. There is no way to verify anything and in order to stay safe they (github in this case) have to take the content down. Now imagine I file a takedown notice for every aspiring project posted here on HN that is hosted on github. They take a pretty good hit from it I'd assume, to be silenced on the launch. Of course I open myself to litigation with false takedown request... but what do I care? I'm not a citizen of United States and I don't really care what laws are there. So what now? How can this work?

rrouse 14y ago
Honestly, I have never seen or heard of anyone actually being sued for a false takedown notice. They happen all the time though.
tripzilch 14y ago
It means that hosting public data in a US-based cloud means opening up yourself to a single point of failure! I'm not entirely sure whether you can submit a DMCA takedown request if you're not a citizen of the USA. For once, you need to provide US-based contact info. However, I am not sure if the service provider needs to check whether this contact info is correct before takedown. So it seems that any public-facing data on any US-based server can be made to disappear for at least 10-14 days. But just because a country has crappy laws doesn't mean you should use those laws against them! ;)
- r00fus 14y ago
  > I'm not entirely sure whether you can submit a DMCA takedown request if you're not a citizen of the USA. For once, you need to provide US-based contact info. So you can't just have an agent do the request on your behalf?
cbs 14y ago
So what now? How can this work? It doesn't. Our most recent copyright overhaul (which this is a feature of) currently works close-enough to OK to be tolerable to those who would otherwise fix it.

by rplnt 14y ago

rrouse 14y ago

Honestly, I have never seen or heard of anyone actually being sued for a false takedown notice. They happen all the time though.

tripzilch 14y ago

It means that hosting public data in a US-based cloud means opening up yourself to a single point of failure! I'm not entirely sure whether you can submit a DMCA takedown request if you're not a citizen of the USA. For once, you need to provide US-based contact info. However, I am not sure if the service provider needs to check whether this contact info is correct before takedown. So it seems that any public-facing data on any US-based server can be made to disappear for at least 10-14 days. But just because a country has crappy laws doesn't mean you should use those laws against them! ;)

r00fus 14y ago
> I'm not entirely sure whether you can submit a DMCA takedown request if you're not a citizen of the USA. For once, you need to provide US-based contact info. So you can't just have an agent do the request on your behalf?

cbs 14y ago

So what now? How can this work? It doesn't. Our most recent copyright overhaul (which this is a feature of) currently works close-enough to OK to be tolerable to those who would otherwise fix it.