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> Jews in the USSR would go to a top flight school in the USSR, get their diploma, then immediately go to Israel or the West and get paid a high salary. Comple
by strlen 14y ago
> Jews in the USSR would go to a top flight school in the USSR, get their diploma, then immediately go to Israel or the West and get paid a high salary.
Complete and utter anti-Semitic horse shit: my dad was prohibited from as much as leaving the Soviet Union to attend a scientific conference until 1989. Even so, he still did not want to leave the USSR or the post-USSR state until it was clear (after Soviet Union's collapse) that economic opportunities for our family were much better in the US (we finally moved in 1996).
Believe it or not, leaving everything behind and immigrating to a country with a completely different economic and political system, a different language, and often a need to work in a completely different industry is hard and often the last resort. My dad researched mathematics at a university in USSR, but that was simply not an option for him in US -- he ended working as a grossly underpaid engineering manager in a startup; yet he was lucky -- friend's dad had a Ph.D. in Economics, but ended up doing menial labour and later started a moving company. Going from masters/Ph.D. and "intelligentsia" to menial or clerical labour was the rule for immigrants, not the exception.
> Where could Jews get free education in the US? I'd like to get a free education at a top school in the US.
Except that while university education in USSR was cheap, it was not actually completely free: you could receive a stipend to help (if you qualify), but it was not guaranteed.
All Ivy Leagues provide need-based scholarships. Top-tier public universities can be extremely cheap (e.g., UT Austin) and many offer full-ride scholarships. Getting a STEM degree free of charge is very well possible in the United States.
Not to the mention, the idea that if a state pays for someone's education they subsequently own them is quite repugnant.
- CleanedStar 14y ago"The idea that if a state pays for someone's education they subsequently own them is quite repugnant." In 2005, the US Congress voted 302 to 126 that declaring bankruptcy would now not wipe away student debt. The US doesn't let debts fall by the wayside either no matter where the lendee is in the world - the US funded the Argentina military overthrow of Argentina's democracy in 1976, and then "lent" the dictatorship money to carry out the Dirty War, killing off opponents who wanted to restore a democracy. The US demands Argentina pay that debt back today - in October 2012 US courts got Ghana to seize an Argentinian ship in order to pay that debt.
- democracy 14y ago> Except that while university education in USSR was cheap, it was not actually completely free: you could receive a stipend to help (if you qualify), but it was not guaranteed. I don't undestand the logic here: so if the Government doesn't pay you to attend Uni, this is not even free, but only 'cheap' education?
- chokolad 14y ago> Except that while university education in USSR was cheap, it was not actually completely free: you could receive a stipend to help (if you qualify), but it was not guaranteed. Bullshit. Education was free and you got stipend. Size of the stipend depended on your academic achievements but even if you did not get stipend you did not have to pay. Not only that, but in a significant amount of cases dorm was also provided for free.