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What role models did Grace Hopper have? And I can only speak for myself but I was never drawn to 'technology' out of having famous neckbeards or Jobs or Gates a

by recuter 14y ago

What role models did Grace Hopper have? And I can only speak for myself but I was never drawn to 'technology' out of having famous neckbeards or Jobs or Gates and so forth as role models. You have to ask why women are more under represented in this particular field than others which used to be just as male dominated in the past. But people don't like to think about such deep large hairy societal problems. None of this is to say that what's described in the OP is a bad thing.

ceejayoz 14y ago
> What role models did Grace Hopper have? This is a fallacy. Just because one person managed to surmount the lack of role models doesn't mean it isn't an issue. > And I can only speak for myself but I was never drawn to 'technology' out of having famous neckbeards or Jobs or Gates and so forth as role models. That's nice, but I don't see how your personal motivations are relevant on an industry-wide scale.
Permit 14y ago
>And I can only speak for myself but I was never drawn to 'technology' out of having famous neckbeards or Jobs or Gates and so forth as role models. You may not have been drawn to it because of Jobs or Gates, but you never once looked at the field of technology and thought "People who look at me don't do this". That is, you never felt deterred because of the people who dominated the field. Scott Hanselman recently hosted Kyla McMullen (first black female Ph.D out of UMichigan) on his podcast where she shed some perspective on how difficult it feels to break into tech when no one looks like you and it feels like you don't belong. I enjoyed it a lot, and maybe you might too. http://hanselminutes.com/357/dr-kyla-mcmullen-on-diversity-in-computer-science-and-spatial-audio http://hanselminutes.com/357/dr-kyla-mcmullen-on-diversity-i...
- recuter 14y ago
  > but you never once looked at the field of technology and thought "People who look at me don't do this". That is, you never felt deterred because of the people who dominated the field. That's a rather huge assumption on your part. > That's nice, but I don't see how your personal motivations are relevant on an industry-wide scale. I don't think my personal motivations are relevant on an industry-wide scale, that was my point to begin with. Like I said, the OP is hardly a bad thing, by all means, try. I hope it helps somebody. In my opinion it is treating the symptoms and not the disease.
querulous 14y ago
Ada Lovelace

by recuter 14y ago

ceejayoz 14y ago

> What role models did Grace Hopper have? This is a fallacy. Just because one person managed to surmount the lack of role models doesn't mean it isn't an issue. > And I can only speak for myself but I was never drawn to 'technology' out of having famous neckbeards or Jobs or Gates and so forth as role models. That's nice, but I don't see how your personal motivations are relevant on an industry-wide scale.

Permit 14y ago

>And I can only speak for myself but I was never drawn to 'technology' out of having famous neckbeards or Jobs or Gates and so forth as role models. You may not have been drawn to it because of Jobs or Gates, but you never once looked at the field of technology and thought "People who look at me don't do this". That is, you never felt deterred because of the people who dominated the field. Scott Hanselman recently hosted Kyla McMullen (first black female Ph.D out of UMichigan) on his podcast where she shed some perspective on how difficult it feels to break into tech when no one looks like you and it feels like you don't belong. I enjoyed it a lot, and maybe you might too. http://hanselminutes.com/357/dr-kyla-mcmullen-on-diversity-in-computer-science-and-spatial-audio http://hanselminutes.com/357/dr-kyla-mcmullen-on-diversity-i...

recuter 14y ago
> but you never once looked at the field of technology and thought "People who look at me don't do this". That is, you never felt deterred because of the people who dominated the field. That's a rather huge assumption on your part. > That's nice, but I don't see how your personal motivations are relevant on an industry-wide scale. I don't think my personal motivations are relevant on an industry-wide scale, that was my point to begin with. Like I said, the OP is hardly a bad thing, by all means, try. I hope it helps somebody. In my opinion it is treating the symptoms and not the disease.

querulous 14y ago

Ada Lovelace