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Also, it might be difficult to consider being locked in a cell with people who are liable to rape you to assert power. In addition, we never heard his side of

by logn 14y ago

Also, it might be difficult to consider being locked in a cell with people who are liable to rape you to assert power. In addition, we never heard his side of the story. It's possible he had zero intent to ever distribute these. In which case, going to federal prison for trespassing seems absurd (and questionable jurisdiction).

rayiner 14y ago
Hackers don't go to "rape you in the ass" prison. They go to places like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Yankton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Yankton
- strlen 14y ago
  I am not sure about the district Swartz is in, but I've known folks who went to FCI Lompoc (for non-violent felonies -- albeit ones with actual victims and non-trivial monetary damage, i.e., they did deserve to go to prison fair and square). While federal prisons are it's far cry from California state prisons (which, even at low security levels, are far more violent than state prisons -- it's not uncommon to take a longer federal sentence as opposed to a shorter CA state prison sentence for this reason), it certainly not "club fed". Swartz would have certainly have been beaten to a pulp on a regular basis, would have been treated to diesel therapy, and while possibility of sexual assault would have been low, it would be far from remote.
  - rayiner 14y ago
    Federal correctional institutions (FCI's) are a step up from Federal prison camps (FPC's). They are generally used for drug offenders and somewhat scarier people. For reference, the hacker serving the longest sentence for hacking in history (caused tens of millions of fraudulent CC charges) is serving it at an FPC.
    - strlen 14y ago
      Ah, so apparently I learned something new: there's a FPC attached to FCI Lompoc, which I am guessing is where Mitnick served time when he was at Lompoc (for his earlier convictions, rather than the most infamous one) as well as Captain Crunch (I am guessing he did not offer Energy Transfer Massages there, however). http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/lox/index.jsp http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/lox/index.jsp

by logn 14y ago

rayiner 14y ago

Hackers don't go to "rape you in the ass" prison. They go to places like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Yankton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Yankton

strlen 14y ago
I am not sure about the district Swartz is in, but I've known folks who went to FCI Lompoc (for non-violent felonies -- albeit ones with actual victims and non-trivial monetary damage, i.e., they did deserve to go to prison fair and square). While federal prisons are it's far cry from California state prisons (which, even at low security levels, are far more violent than state prisons -- it's not uncommon to take a longer federal sentence as opposed to a shorter CA state prison sentence for this reason), it certainly not "club fed". Swartz would have certainly have been beaten to a pulp on a regular basis, would have been treated to diesel therapy, and while possibility of sexual assault would have been low, it would be far from remote.
- rayiner 14y ago
  Federal correctional institutions (FCI's) are a step up from Federal prison camps (FPC's). They are generally used for drug offenders and somewhat scarier people. For reference, the hacker serving the longest sentence for hacking in history (caused tens of millions of fraudulent CC charges) is serving it at an FPC.
  - strlen 14y ago
    Ah, so apparently I learned something new: there's a FPC attached to FCI Lompoc, which I am guessing is where Mitnick served time when he was at Lompoc (for his earlier convictions, rather than the most infamous one) as well as Captain Crunch (I am guessing he did not offer Energy Transfer Massages there, however). http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/lox/index.jsp http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/lox/index.jsp