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I can't help but be reminded of: http://xkcd.com/1118/ http://xkcd.com/1118/ as I read this. Bundling a browser with an operating system seems much more innoce

by Permit 14y ago

I can't help but be reminded of: http://xkcd.com/1118/ http://xkcd.com/1118/ as I read this. Bundling a browser with an operating system seems much more innocent than the lack of openness in the mobile world.

UnoriginalGuy 14y ago
Plus even more scary, on iOS they only allow a single browser/engine. Yes, you can get "Chrome" for iOS but it is really just a skinned Safari. Android might not be perfect but at least you get a real choice of browser on there.
- kmfrk 14y ago
  Does the Opera app run on WebKit?
  - kordless 14y ago
    It does now: http://m.tech2.com/news/android/beta-for-operas-webkitbased-browser-hits-google-play/807072 http://m.tech2.com/news/android/beta-for-operas-webkitbased-...
  - bd_at_rivenhill 14y ago
    Can you get Apple to list it on the app store if it does?
  - masklinn 14y ago
    Opera Mini does not run on Webkit. It's a rather special case as it does all rendering on a remote server, the client essentially just lays out an image.
laumars 14y ago
Apple and Facebook were never had a monopoly and Google, while arguably still never having had a monopoly, has been investigated.
- thechut 14y ago
  Monopoly is not a requirement of anti-trust. Anti-trust can be non-competitive behavior. The fact that Apple has not been brought on any kind of anti-trust charges is pretty messed up.
  - masklinn 14y ago
    > Monopoly is not a requirement of anti-trust. For a single company, you need at least a "dominant position", the other anti-trust triggers are company mergers and cartels (inter-company agreements distorting the market). Apple has not been brought on any anti-trust charges because there's no anti-trust charges which will stick to a single non-dominant (marketshare-wise) player.
    - bd_at_rivenhill 14y ago
      They've definitely been hit with charges related to forming a pricing cartel in electronic books.
      - masklinn 14y ago
        On that one yes. They have also, in the US, been taken to task over the "no poaching" agreement thing.

by Permit 14y ago

UnoriginalGuy 14y ago

Plus even more scary, on iOS they only allow a single browser/engine. Yes, you can get "Chrome" for iOS but it is really just a skinned Safari. Android might not be perfect but at least you get a real choice of browser on there.

kmfrk 14y ago
Does the Opera app run on WebKit?
- kordless 14y ago
  It does now: http://m.tech2.com/news/android/beta-for-operas-webkitbased-browser-hits-google-play/807072 http://m.tech2.com/news/android/beta-for-operas-webkitbased-...
- bd_at_rivenhill 14y ago
  Can you get Apple to list it on the app store if it does?
- masklinn 14y ago
  Opera Mini does not run on Webkit. It's a rather special case as it does all rendering on a remote server, the client essentially just lays out an image.

laumars 14y ago

Apple and Facebook were never had a monopoly and Google, while arguably still never having had a monopoly, has been investigated.

thechut 14y ago
Monopoly is not a requirement of anti-trust. Anti-trust can be non-competitive behavior. The fact that Apple has not been brought on any kind of anti-trust charges is pretty messed up.
- masklinn 14y ago
  > Monopoly is not a requirement of anti-trust. For a single company, you need at least a "dominant position", the other anti-trust triggers are company mergers and cartels (inter-company agreements distorting the market). Apple has not been brought on any anti-trust charges because there's no anti-trust charges which will stick to a single non-dominant (marketshare-wise) player.
  - bd_at_rivenhill 14y ago
    They've definitely been hit with charges related to forming a pricing cartel in electronic books.
    - masklinn 14y ago
      On that one yes. They have also, in the US, been taken to task over the "no poaching" agreement thing.