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The biggest problem is that getting bitcoins is a major, major pain in the ass. You need to setup bank transfers, confirm your DNA and get a rectal exam to buy
by DanBlake 14y ago
The biggest problem is that getting bitcoins is a major, major pain in the ass. You need to setup bank transfers, confirm your DNA and get a rectal exam to buy them from any exchange. You are looking at about a week to buy your first bitcoin from when you decide to do that. (3 days to confirm bank, 3 days to do a deposit) - This will never change for online purchases, because the way bitcoin works- there is no takey backeys (so credit card purchasing is out to buy bitcoins). So, either there will be massive fraud, or massive barrier to entry. The only way around it is retail, in person bitcoin exchanges/stores. Sort of like you see in international airports with currency exchanges.
Also, Even though Bitcoin cant be destroyed in a physical sense, it can still be completely devalued by litigation. The US has shown they are serious about anti-gambling and if this starts taking off, they simply need to go after the exchanges. Making it hard to buy bitcoins = BTC value goes down. Making it hard to sell (remember when pokerstars was shutdown? Everyone withdrew everything from ALL sites) and the value goes down catastrophically fast.
Basically, all it takes to completely devalue bitcoins is to have one event that makes most bitcoin owners think the amount of time they have to cash out is minimal.
How do you think the market would react if mtgox had a 'megaupload' style moment? It doesn't even have to be realistic- The US gov could just say terrorists might be using it to funnel funds or something.
But anyways, If mtgox was raided or taken down (and please don't say its not possible- Its totally possible) the effects on the market would be massive and instantaneous. When megaupload was taken down, all its competitors shut down out of fear as well. Its likely that would happen in this situation in a similar fashion.
There is no intrinsic value in bitcoins unless it is possible to easily trade them with a outcome of receiving capital. Yes you can trade bitcoins for services, but the person giving you services is not going to do that unless HE can get cash from this. People are not going to trade services/items to each other in a giant circle if the value of the currency is not hinged on a dollar amount.
I think the pro-bitcoin line to counter what I am saying is that someday people wont care if it converts into USD, because bitcoins will be more valuable. Its not totally bullshit- The USD is no more 'real' than a bitcoin, with the exception of it being established and backed by our gov. However, I doubt BTC would ever get gov backing, so it will eternally be at risk.
- jaggederest 14y ago> Yes you can trade bitcoins for services, but the person giving you services is not going to do that unless HE can get cash from this. Nice try, buddy, but it's services all the way down. If I can pay for food and rent with it, no exchange is needed. That said, right now you basically can't. Soon, though, soon.
- scotty79 14y ago> There is no intrinsic value in bitcoins unless it is possible to easily trade them with a outcome of receiving capital. I hate when people use word 'intrinsic' when criticizing bitcoin. Anything that is in limited supply, transferable and durable becomes valuable or forgotten. There's no way that bitcoin will be forgotten and bitcoin is as durable as any P2P network. Whether you can legally buy and sell bitcoins is irrelevant. Of course I'd much prefer if bitcoin was mainstream than black market but being black market only still places price of bitcoin higher that it is today, I believe.
- DanBlake 14y agoI would disagree. I think a event like a major exchange being raided would cause a mass selling panic. When megaupload was raided, it wasn't the only one that was effected. Almost all of the other file lockers shuttered/closed immediately. Its foolish to think other exchanges would not follow suit if one was taken down. If there is no way to turn your bitcoins into another currency, you would be silly to think you could still buy goods that cost someone else money with them. Whos going to spend money to lose money?
- scotty79 14y ago> I think a event like a major exchange being raided would cause a mass selling panic. I agree. I just don't think it would kill bitcoin. Because killing one exchange would just make others more popular. That's what happened when most popular bitcoin exchange in my country lost their wallet. :-) World consists of many countries with many laws. I just don't see all of them cooperating in killing bitcoin. Besides how well megaupload raid worked for Hollywood people?