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I am in support of privacy and therefore I'm in support of the ACLU in theory on this one, but... That map is fucking ridiculous. There is no way they would se

I am in support of privacy and therefore I'm in support of the ACLU in theory on this one, but... That map is fucking ridiculous. There is no way they would search in the middle of a rural area without access from waterway, etc., and yet that is what much of this map highlights. Even if it is "factually correct", it isn't realistic, even for the most nutcase DHS employee. The everglades? Give me a fucking break. http://cdn.storyleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/fourth-amendment-free-zone-dhs.gif http://cdn.storyleak.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/fourth-a...

burntsushi 14y ago
Huh? That map highlights 2/3 of the country's population because of dense population centers near the coast. Just because it happens to overlap with the everglades is kind of irrelevant.
- hakaaaaak 14y ago
  It isn't just the everglades. Most of the area covered is rural, swampland, farmland, etc. and would not be under suspicion, ever. It is a ridiculous map. It would be one thing if waterways and major cities were highlighted, but it is just over the top, completely. Highlighting all of it makes people in those areas worry unnecessarily when they need not. Finally, Homeland Security does not have the resources to implement searches in all of these places, nor will they knock on the door of every random apartment in Washington, D.C. This is a sideshow to real privacy problems and a waste of my time and yours. The ACLU should be focused on the fact that our communications are being monitored, because that is something that is much more worrisome.
btilly 14y ago
I have been aware of the 100 mile zone for about a decade, ever since a friend of mine encountered a border patrol traffic stop on a freeway in Maine. (The Bush era amendment to the policy was that they could seize your electronics. Not being currently reported is that they can jail you if they think you aren't here legally, and have been able to do so forever.)

burntsushi 14y ago

Huh? That map highlights 2/3 of the country's population because of dense population centers near the coast. Just because it happens to overlap with the everglades is kind of irrelevant.

hakaaaaak 14y ago
It isn't just the everglades. Most of the area covered is rural, swampland, farmland, etc. and would not be under suspicion, ever. It is a ridiculous map. It would be one thing if waterways and major cities were highlighted, but it is just over the top, completely. Highlighting all of it makes people in those areas worry unnecessarily when they need not. Finally, Homeland Security does not have the resources to implement searches in all of these places, nor will they knock on the door of every random apartment in Washington, D.C. This is a sideshow to real privacy problems and a waste of my time and yours. The ACLU should be focused on the fact that our communications are being monitored, because that is something that is much more worrisome.

btilly 14y ago

I have been aware of the 100 mile zone for about a decade, ever since a friend of mine encountered a border patrol traffic stop on a freeway in Maine. (The Bush era amendment to the policy was that they could seize your electronics. Not being currently reported is that they can jail you if they think you aren't here legally, and have been able to do so forever.)