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Kind of a misleading blog post. It seemed like exactly the site I have been trying to find (a way to give less specific queries when finding tickets). However

Kind of a misleading blog post. It seemed like exactly the site I have been trying to find (a way to give less specific queries when finding tickets). However, it makes you be as strict as any other flight search engine it seems. This query is 'too broad': http://adioso.com/fr/france-to-california-june-13 http://adioso.com/fr/france-to-california-june-13 All I want is to find the cheapest ticket from anywhere in Europe to California in the middle of June, and nobody can give that information to me. EDIT: I'm sure this was modded down by one of the employees of this site. I included a link that proves what I said, instead of modding my comment down, how about explaining why the linked search is 'too broad'?

marknutter 14y ago
I know! I wanted to find a ticket from anywhere in the US to anywhere in Asia and it told me it was too broad. This product is broken!
tomhoward 14y ago
Adioso co-founder here. I didn't downvote you. I can't speak for the others, but I highly doubt it; they're all too busy working to improve the site and besides we're just not like that. The post doesn't say Adioso can can currently let you search for anywhere in Europe to anywhere in California. We're working towards that kind of capability, but as you say, no other site in the world can do it, and we can't either, yet, but I think we're working harder than anyone else to offer it.
- justin_vanw 14y ago
  If I wrongly accused you, my apologies. That is what the blog post led me to believe I could do, and I was genuinely surprised that I couldn't do it. I really don't see any queries I can do on your site that I can't do on Kayak already, except that Kayak seems to have many more sources of data and therefore fares at least as low and sometimes lower?
  - tomhoward 14y ago
    Have a look at the scrolling search suggestions on the front of http://adioso.com http://adioso.com, then try executing the same searches on Kayak, in a single search. All of them.
    - justin_vanw 14y ago
      All of them? Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but if you mean that the random travel searches you scroll on the site are a feature, that is bordering on insane. I don't need to go to some random place for some random duration at some random time. So, since it would be insane to consider random trips to be a useful feature, I assumed that it was recommending certain trips because they were really good deals. Maybe your system figured out I live near San Jose, and recommended me a flight because it was just such a great deal it was worth my time to try that search and maybe go on a vacation on a whim. That would actually be an awesome feature, and I would probably use it a lot! So, benefit of the doubt. So I tested that theory, and here is what I got: http://adioso.com/us/san-jose-california-to-hawaii-hawaii-next-week-for-7-days http://adioso.com/us/san-jose-california-to-hawaii-hawaii-ne... Best flight that Adioso found was $535 for that trip. BTW, Expedia never returns on your site. Then I went to Kayak. It took me about 30 seconds to fill it out, and it took me here: http://www.kayak.com/#/flights/SJC,nearby-HNL,OGG,LIH,KOA/2013-03-13-flexible/2013-03-20-flexible http://www.kayak.com/#/flights/SJC,nearby-HNL,OGG,LIH,KOA/20... So, the best fare that Kayak found was a $277 hacker fare. That's almost exactly half as much as what Adioso found. Sure, that's a hacker fare, and for a 10 day trip not 7 days. Fine, the best fare that is exactly comparable is $350 for a 7 day trip leaving next week round-trip on Delta.
      - tomhoward 14y ago
        Sigh :) I mean they're examples of searches you can do on Adioso, many/most of which take a lot of time and many repetitive searches on other sites. The Hawaii search you tried came up with the same fares as Kayak when I tried it. It may well have timed out for you, which is part of the performance challenges this post is mostly about. But it occurs to me your approach to travel doesn't make you the intended customer for this product, so I won't try to persuade you further :)
Tichy 14y ago
That's a really funny search, though, does that kind of thing come up often? Is it for people doing "Interrail" in Europe (travling Europe with a train flatrate)? Because otherwise, it can take you a day to get from one place in Europe to another place, so it might be cheaper to just get a more expensive fare to the US from wherever you are at the moment?

marknutter 14y ago

I know! I wanted to find a ticket from anywhere in the US to anywhere in Asia and it told me it was too broad. This product is broken!

tomhoward 14y ago

Adioso co-founder here. I didn't downvote you. I can't speak for the others, but I highly doubt it; they're all too busy working to improve the site and besides we're just not like that. The post doesn't say Adioso can can currently let you search for anywhere in Europe to anywhere in California. We're working towards that kind of capability, but as you say, no other site in the world can do it, and we can't either, yet, but I think we're working harder than anyone else to offer it.

justin_vanw 14y ago
If I wrongly accused you, my apologies. That is what the blog post led me to believe I could do, and I was genuinely surprised that I couldn't do it. I really don't see any queries I can do on your site that I can't do on Kayak already, except that Kayak seems to have many more sources of data and therefore fares at least as low and sometimes lower?
- tomhoward 14y ago
  Have a look at the scrolling search suggestions on the front of http://adioso.com http://adioso.com, then try executing the same searches on Kayak, in a single search. All of them.
  - justin_vanw 14y ago
    All of them? Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but if you mean that the random travel searches you scroll on the site are a feature, that is bordering on insane. I don't need to go to some random place for some random duration at some random time. So, since it would be insane to consider random trips to be a useful feature, I assumed that it was recommending certain trips because they were really good deals. Maybe your system figured out I live near San Jose, and recommended me a flight because it was just such a great deal it was worth my time to try that search and maybe go on a vacation on a whim. That would actually be an awesome feature, and I would probably use it a lot! So, benefit of the doubt. So I tested that theory, and here is what I got: http://adioso.com/us/san-jose-california-to-hawaii-hawaii-next-week-for-7-days http://adioso.com/us/san-jose-california-to-hawaii-hawaii-ne... Best flight that Adioso found was $535 for that trip. BTW, Expedia never returns on your site. Then I went to Kayak. It took me about 30 seconds to fill it out, and it took me here: http://www.kayak.com/#/flights/SJC,nearby-HNL,OGG,LIH,KOA/2013-03-13-flexible/2013-03-20-flexible http://www.kayak.com/#/flights/SJC,nearby-HNL,OGG,LIH,KOA/20... So, the best fare that Kayak found was a $277 hacker fare. That's almost exactly half as much as what Adioso found. Sure, that's a hacker fare, and for a 10 day trip not 7 days. Fine, the best fare that is exactly comparable is $350 for a 7 day trip leaving next week round-trip on Delta.
    - tomhoward 14y ago
      Sigh :) I mean they're examples of searches you can do on Adioso, many/most of which take a lot of time and many repetitive searches on other sites. The Hawaii search you tried came up with the same fares as Kayak when I tried it. It may well have timed out for you, which is part of the performance challenges this post is mostly about. But it occurs to me your approach to travel doesn't make you the intended customer for this product, so I won't try to persuade you further :)

Tichy 14y ago

That's a really funny search, though, does that kind of thing come up often? Is it for people doing "Interrail" in Europe (travling Europe with a train flatrate)? Because otherwise, it can take you a day to get from one place in Europe to another place, so it might be cheaper to just get a more expensive fare to the US from wherever you are at the moment?