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Jarring? Really? Anyways. I think what you're missing is that the flat design principles relying on crafty use of shading and visual hierarchy to structure elem

by wahsd 14y ago

Jarring? Really? Anyways. I think what you're missing is that the flat design principles relying on crafty use of shading and visual hierarchy to structure elements. What I do like about the flat style is that it removes all the visual noise. Were you looking for some faux-leather stitching or something? Maybe a nice, literal notepad theme?

danso 14y ago
No, what was jarring was how the elements were under the heading "Buttons," and so my eyes and brain were fighting each other over what to really think. Having to do that with every possible element on a page seems like more work than it needs to be. Some of the other elements were easier to interpret, such as the movie UI, because icons in the conventional-nav-control are obviously buttons of some type.
elou 14y ago
Simply disliking the lack of depth in this UI does not imply that he thinks leather stitching would be a better alternative. There is something inherently enjoyable about clicking a button with a bit of depth, even if that depth is subtle. The flat UI perspective often removes that emotional touch. Several prominent designers (@kerem and @craigmod, to name two) have emoted that adding a bit of depth to a button makes clicking it more satisfying. We are in the design business, but that involves making things more than pretty and trendy. Flat design does look beautiful, but there is a growing consensus that in many cases it also removes a bit of soul and energy from a design.
coldtea 14y ago
Why the ad-hominem? How about trying some civilised discussion? >I think what you're missing is that the flat design principles relying on crafty use of shading and visual hierarchy to structure elements. And what you are missing is that obviously the shading was NOT used in this UI examples. As for the faux-leather stitching etc, this has been discussed to death. Those use of this kind of ornaments depend on the design fashions of the day -- Apple was universally lauded for introduced some of those back in the day, before flat become the new fad again. And we had that going back and forth several times in the design world (even going as far as from Ancient Greece to Rome, or from classical to baroque to modernism etc). And to clear another misconception some people have, faux leather stitchings have nothing to do with "skeuomorphism".
- dllthomas 14y ago
  > And to clear another misconception some people have, faux leather stitchings have nothing to do with "skeuomorphism". To test my conceptions (which very well may be mis-): That is, "unless you're interacting with the UI element as if it were stitches", yes?
  - coldtea 14y ago
    Yes, that is correct: "Unless you're interacting with the UI element as if it were stitches" -- or cloth.

by wahsd 14y ago

danso 14y ago

No, what was jarring was how the elements were under the heading "Buttons," and so my eyes and brain were fighting each other over what to really think. Having to do that with every possible element on a page seems like more work than it needs to be. Some of the other elements were easier to interpret, such as the movie UI, because icons in the conventional-nav-control are obviously buttons of some type.

elou 14y ago

Simply disliking the lack of depth in this UI does not imply that he thinks leather stitching would be a better alternative. There is something inherently enjoyable about clicking a button with a bit of depth, even if that depth is subtle. The flat UI perspective often removes that emotional touch. Several prominent designers (@kerem and @craigmod, to name two) have emoted that adding a bit of depth to a button makes clicking it more satisfying. We are in the design business, but that involves making things more than pretty and trendy. Flat design does look beautiful, but there is a growing consensus that in many cases it also removes a bit of soul and energy from a design.

coldtea 14y ago

Why the ad-hominem? How about trying some civilised discussion? >I think what you're missing is that the flat design principles relying on crafty use of shading and visual hierarchy to structure elements. And what you are missing is that obviously the shading was NOT used in this UI examples. As for the faux-leather stitching etc, this has been discussed to death. Those use of this kind of ornaments depend on the design fashions of the day -- Apple was universally lauded for introduced some of those back in the day, before flat become the new fad again. And we had that going back and forth several times in the design world (even going as far as from Ancient Greece to Rome, or from classical to baroque to modernism etc). And to clear another misconception some people have, faux leather stitchings have nothing to do with "skeuomorphism".

dllthomas 14y ago
> And to clear another misconception some people have, faux leather stitchings have nothing to do with "skeuomorphism". To test my conceptions (which very well may be mis-): That is, "unless you're interacting with the UI element as if it were stitches", yes?
- coldtea 14y ago
  Yes, that is correct: "Unless you're interacting with the UI element as if it were stitches" -- or cloth.