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Yes, definitely, we should not stand by while companies host their content in countries known to use torture to extract information, hold prisoners with out tri
by fleitz 14y ago
Yes, definitely, we should not stand by while companies host their content in countries known to use torture to extract information, hold prisoners with out trial, hold prisoners with out charge, allow their leaders to execute citizens summarily, execute minors and the mentally retarded, incarcerate people at a rate higher than any other country on earth merely in order to serve as slave labour for the state and state sponsored corporations.
Even worse is many of the citizens of this 'republic' have been brainwashed by a compulsory education system that they actually live in a democratic republic.
- powertower 14y agoIf you think you can legitimately compare the living conditions, political environment, and human suffering in North Korea that with the USA, you might have also brainwashed yourself (it happens when you take everything you have for granted). In NK you'd be lucky to get 1 meal a day. Over here poor people are morbidly fat. And at the end of the day, you're not a prisoner, if you hate it here so much, you can leave this country any day you want to. But can't say the same for people in NK.
- fleitz 14y agoHow is it that you think I was talking about a country other than NK? Is there a country other than NK with such a piss poor human rights record? Generally when someone murders one person we regard them as a horrid individual we don't say their not that bad because they only killed 1 instead of 10 like that Ted Bundy guy. I didn't say I was living in a police state, the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40 years, and we certainly didn't think it was a big deal to destroy our nuclear weapons arsenal, stop stockpiling nuclear weapons, or ban landmines. I simply said we should stop hosting websites in countries with numerous years of history of horrid human rights abuse. Imagine living in a country where as recently at 1960 that certain classes of people were forbidden from eating lunch with other classes of people. I find your definition of police state interesting, would you say that NK would stop being a police state with different emigration policies?
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- sigzero 14y agoStop being obtuse.
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- youngerdryas 14y agoAnd what country are you from? Edit: Oh I get it, if you you don't say what country you can pretend they are perfect. Brilliant.
- anonymfus 14y ago> the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40 years, and we certainly didn't think it was a big deal to destroy our nuclear weapons arsenal, stop stockpiling nuclear weapons, or ban landmines. From all countries with nuclear weapon 40 years without death penalty match only UK.
- youngerdryas 14y agoOk, then he can go to jail for a tweet.
- vonmoltke 14y agoExcept the UK is nowhere near destroying their arsenal; in fact, they are trying to figure out how to replace their current missile boats. The country described by that line does not actually exist.
- grecy 14y ago> If you think you can legitimately compare the living conditions, political environment, and human suffering in North Korea that with the USA, you might have also brainwashed yourself The parent comment wasn't comparing NK to the USA. It was comparing the USA to every other developed country, where the USA ranks very poorly.
- kingkawn 14y agoDon't deny them their straw man.
- Turing_Machine 14y ago"It was comparing the USA to every other developed country, where the USA ranks very poorly." http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM It does? Doesn't Europe have at least one violent ethnic conflict going on at any given time? Usually several?
- Turing_Machine 14y agoHere's today's: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/at-least-22-people-hurt-in-macedonia-ethnic-protests-over-new-defense-minister/2013/03/02/90ac4dd2-8386-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/at-least-22-peopl...
- grecy 14y ago> It does? Bottom of the list for everything that matters. http://www.oecd.org/statistics/ http://www.oecd.org/statistics/
- Turing_Machine 14y ago"Bottom of the list for everything that matters." Except for "first choice to which to immigrate", oddly.
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- megablast 14y agoIt is almost like the difference between 1984 and a Brave New World. Ok, maybe not, but you can compare the two. The US is not getting better.
- angersock 14y agoI wouldn't be so fast as to dismiss obesity. Especially when the culture is saturated with body images that are so far from the folks who are that size, and are so far from being able to easily lose that weight.
- petenixey 14y agoAssuming this is not in fact a reference to NK at all what is the execution of minors and the mentally retarded that you refer to?
- adrianbye 14y agoi lol'ed
- darkchasma 14y agoI'm honestly confused, are you talking about the United States of America or North Korea. With the exception of the execution of minors, it describes the USA fairly accurately.
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- Uchikoma 14y agoHe was probably wrong on that and meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_juvenile_offenders_executed_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_juvenile_offenders_exec...
- Uchikoma 14y agoCorrecting myself: "The youngest person to be executed in the 20th century was George Stinney, electrocuted in South Carolina at the age of fourteen on June 16, 1944. [...] The last execution of a juvenile may have been convicted murderer Leonard Shockley, who died in the Maryland gas chamber on April 10, 1959, at the age of 17."
- salman89 14y agoBesides for executing minors/mentally handicapped, the US does all those things. Torture (waterboarding), hold prisoners without trial/charge (Guantanamo Bay), allow their leaders to execute citizens summarily (drone strikes), incarcerate people at a high rate for benefit of state sponsored corporations (drug war - privatized jails). I'm not arguing politics - I don't think HN is the place for it, but you should evaluate your perspective and how it might be changing how you view the world.
- ritchiea 14y agoIf you are so upset about those issues in the United States how about you sign up to adopt some of the citizens who vote for them? We'd be happy to ship a few off.