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As a Brit, I'm pretty stunned by the efficacy of the We The People Platform here. Good work democracy.

SworDsy 14y ago
it may or may not work in the short term but there's nothing like an outside perspective to make you appreciate what you have. its true that the legislative branch has to pass this, but at the very least the political climate changes (slightly, around this issue after a public statement) and the people involved feel empowered which both have at least the potential to recreate the situation
obviouslygreen 14y ago
Hold that thought. If something actually happens, then I as a citizen of the USA will tentatively join you in your shock and awe. It would almost certainly be the first time something tangible and beneficial came from this. The experienced cynic in me also says it would probably be the last time, as it would be a clear symbol to our many lobbies that this platform is a serious threat to their continued profit glut.
- snowwrestler 14y ago
  A statement of policy by the White House is something tangible and beneficial. It might not seem like much, but it is. During the SOPA fight the White House did nothing more, but it went a long way toward changing the tone of that conversation in Washington.
metaphorm 14y ago
as an American, I'm glad that we are at least able to get an official response from the White House, but deeply pessimistic about their ability to deliver on the policies they claim to support. this isn't really a win for democracy. its a win for a mass communications platform but it has no real impact on getting shit done. congress is a mess and we're no closer to a solution.
spwestwood 14y ago
The UK version has a much worse design: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/departments http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/departments Responses are guaranteed after 10k signatures, which is a bit more achievable than the (current) 100k in the US. If they get to 100k then they have to be debated in parliament. Highest number of signatures is for saving badgers. Which seems very English :) http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38257 http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38257 Started by (now Dr) Brian May.
- whattttttttt 14y ago
  Or to give him his full title: Doctor Brian May, Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire

it may or may not work in the short term but there's nothing like an outside perspective to make you appreciate what you have. its true that the legislative branch has to pass this, but at the very least the political climate changes (slightly, around this issue after a public statement) and the people involved feel empowered which both have at least the potential to recreate the situation

obviouslygreen 14y ago

Hold that thought. If something actually happens, then I as a citizen of the USA will tentatively join you in your shock and awe. It would almost certainly be the first time something tangible and beneficial came from this. The experienced cynic in me also says it would probably be the last time, as it would be a clear symbol to our many lobbies that this platform is a serious threat to their continued profit glut.

snowwrestler 14y ago
A statement of policy by the White House is something tangible and beneficial. It might not seem like much, but it is. During the SOPA fight the White House did nothing more, but it went a long way toward changing the tone of that conversation in Washington.

metaphorm 14y ago

as an American, I'm glad that we are at least able to get an official response from the White House, but deeply pessimistic about their ability to deliver on the policies they claim to support. this isn't really a win for democracy. its a win for a mass communications platform but it has no real impact on getting shit done. congress is a mess and we're no closer to a solution.

spwestwood 14y ago

The UK version has a much worse design: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/departments http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/departments Responses are guaranteed after 10k signatures, which is a bit more achievable than the (current) 100k in the US. If they get to 100k then they have to be debated in parliament. Highest number of signatures is for saving badgers. Which seems very English :) http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38257 http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38257 Started by (now Dr) Brian May.

whattttttttt 14y ago
Or to give him his full title: Doctor Brian May, Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire