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Notice that in the Google translate version 10.8 billion kroner is translated to 10.8 billion dollars. Google Translate often does that :-)

by flexie 14y ago

thejosh 14y ago
Because it is the exact translation. It would be nice if they converted it into your currency or just leave it as the original currency.
- flexie 14y ago
  No, kroner doesn't translate to dollars anymore than inches translates to centimeters.
- kome 14y ago
  > Because it is the exact translation. No, it's not.
- unwind 14y ago
  There's nothing exact about it, it's just wrong and very very confusing. A currency is a unit, a scale-factor. It can only be translated if you also translate, i.e. re-compute, the corresponding measure (the number itself). I would classify this a major bug, the reasonable thing if they don't want to fix it (since fixing it requires reaching out to a time-dependent currency conversion table, it might be a non-desirable thing to do) they should just not translate that part at all. Then it becomes up to the reader to go back and look up the currency in question, instead of just thinking it's already been done.
- jonascopenhagen 14y ago
  The exact translation of kroner would be kroner - not dollars. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kroner http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kroner
okamiueru 14y ago
Not to mention that a Danish "billion" is not the same as a US "billion". A Danish, Norwegian, Swedish ("biljon" ) billion is 10^12, a US billion is 10^9. It's utterly confusing sometimes, and this is one of the fewer cases where US metric makes much more sense. US: million, billion, trillion. 10^6, 10^9, 10^12 Skandinavia: million, milliard, billion, billiard, trillion, trilliard 10^6, 10^9, 10^12, etc PS: I don't know about the rest of the world.
- abrahamsen 14y ago
  > Not to mention that a Danish "billion" is not the same as a US "billion". Google correctly translates the Danish original "milliard" to the US "billion". A 5 (Danish) billion kroner fine would be higher than our total GDP. > this is one of the fewer cases where US metric makes much more sense. Don't see that. A bi-llion is million million. A tri-llion is a million million million. Makes perfect sense to me.
  - okamiueru 14y ago
    Ah, I like to think in steps of factors 10^3. Thousand, Million, Billion, Trillion. Very rarely do you get to numbers above this (non-science related), and when you do, scientific notation is more relatable. I think I have almost never in my life (in Norway), seen "Billiard", "Trillion" or "Trilliard" used anywhere.
    - abrahamsen 14y ago
      As you noted, we still have factor 1000 steps. -ard is 1000 -ion.
      - okamiueru 14y ago
        You're right. I should also have mentioned that it was more intuitive (for me), that {mono-, di-, tri-} was the 1000 factor prefix, as opposed to {mono-|{-ion,-ard}, di-|{-ion,-ard}, tri-|{-ion,-ard}}. I'm not arguing expressibility. It's just different names. I just found the system my country uses (long scale) to be less intuitive than the one used by the US (short scale). Just take a look at the comparison [1], and make up your own mind on what is intuitive, and what not. I'm not saying you or anyone is "wrong". I find it hard to see good reason for the long scale, but I'll entertain arguments. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Long_and_short_scales#Comparison http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Long_and_short_sca...

Notice that in the Google translate version 10.8 billion kroner is translated to 10.8 billion dollars. Google Translate often does that :-)

by flexie 14y ago

Notice that in the Google translate version 10.8 billion kroner is translated to 10.8 billion dollars. Google Translate often does that :-)

thejosh 14y ago

Because it is the exact translation. It would be nice if they converted it into your currency or just leave it as the original currency.

flexie 14y ago
No, kroner doesn't translate to dollars anymore than inches translates to centimeters.
kome 14y ago
> Because it is the exact translation. No, it's not.
unwind 14y ago
There's nothing exact about it, it's just wrong and very very confusing. A currency is a unit, a scale-factor. It can only be translated if you also translate, i.e. re-compute, the corresponding measure (the number itself). I would classify this a major bug, the reasonable thing if they don't want to fix it (since fixing it requires reaching out to a time-dependent currency conversion table, it might be a non-desirable thing to do) they should just not translate that part at all. Then it becomes up to the reader to go back and look up the currency in question, instead of just thinking it's already been done.
jonascopenhagen 14y ago
The exact translation of kroner would be kroner - not dollars. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kroner http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kroner

okamiueru 14y ago

Not to mention that a Danish "billion" is not the same as a US "billion". A Danish, Norwegian, Swedish ("biljon" ) billion is 10^12, a US billion is 10^9. It's utterly confusing sometimes, and this is one of the fewer cases where US metric makes much more sense. US: million, billion, trillion. 10^6, 10^9, 10^12 Skandinavia: million, milliard, billion, billiard, trillion, trilliard 10^6, 10^9, 10^12, etc PS: I don't know about the rest of the world.

abrahamsen 14y ago
> Not to mention that a Danish "billion" is not the same as a US "billion". Google correctly translates the Danish original "milliard" to the US "billion". A 5 (Danish) billion kroner fine would be higher than our total GDP. > this is one of the fewer cases where US metric makes much more sense. Don't see that. A bi-llion is million million. A tri-llion is a million million million. Makes perfect sense to me.
- okamiueru 14y ago
  Ah, I like to think in steps of factors 10^3. Thousand, Million, Billion, Trillion. Very rarely do you get to numbers above this (non-science related), and when you do, scientific notation is more relatable. I think I have almost never in my life (in Norway), seen "Billiard", "Trillion" or "Trilliard" used anywhere.
  - abrahamsen 14y ago
    As you noted, we still have factor 1000 steps. -ard is 1000 -ion.
    - okamiueru 14y ago
      You're right. I should also have mentioned that it was more intuitive (for me), that {mono-, di-, tri-} was the 1000 factor prefix, as opposed to {mono-|{-ion,-ard}, di-|{-ion,-ard}, tri-|{-ion,-ard}}. I'm not arguing expressibility. It's just different names. I just found the system my country uses (long scale) to be less intuitive than the one used by the US (short scale). Just take a look at the comparison [1], and make up your own mind on what is intuitive, and what not. I'm not saying you or anyone is "wrong". I find it hard to see good reason for the long scale, but I'll entertain arguments. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Long_and_short_scales#Comparison http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Long_and_short_sca...