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Don't talk to police, either, according to this law school professor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

sachingulaya 14y ago
This is an insightful video to watch. I've seen it before and have to say it didn't hit on any of the obvious reasons that its a bad idea to speak to the police. I felt sick reading her account and couldn't finish. She is not the person I would want by my side going through something like that. In spite of being a "reporter on hackers" she was extremely naive of the system. How can anyone in the right mind recommend that the prosecution reads a document called the "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto"?
- gknoy 14y ago
  It's a good thing to read, even so. Melancholy and sad, but not something I regret reading. It's not as informative (in terms of actionable advice) as the article on HN about how to (politely) not talk to investigators, but it showed the depths of how adversarial they can make it -- it's a game for them.
praptak 14y ago
FBI is also on that list: http://www.browardbeat.com/broward-probe-302-reasons-not-to-talk-to-the-fbi/ http://www.browardbeat.com/broward-probe-302-reasons-not-to-... "Federal agents have the right to lie to you-and to put you in prison if you lie to them. Any citizen who makes even a single-word false utterance (”no,” “yes”) to a federal agent faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine." : http://jimbovard.com/blog/2010/08/18/the-crime-of-lying-to-the-fbi/ http://jimbovard.com/blog/2010/08/18/the-crime-of-lying-to-t... They try to make witnesses contradict themselves, so that they can invoke this law and scare them into testifying what they need to hear.
- macchina 14y ago
  It's especially true with the FBI or any other person connected with the federal government in an investigation. Making false statements is a separate crime in itself. 18 USC § 1001 [1] [1] http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 [Fascinating article published originally in WSJ] http://ourtaxdollarsatwork.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/federal-lying-statute-a-catch-all-that-even-insnares-the-innocent/ http://ourtaxdollarsatwork.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/federal-... [How to Avoid Going to Jail under 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 for Lying to Government Agents] http://corporate.findlaw.com/litigation-disputes/how-to-avoid-going-to-jail-under-18-u-s-c-section-1001-for-lying.html http://corporate.findlaw.com/litigation-disputes/how-to-avoi...

sachingulaya 14y ago

This is an insightful video to watch. I've seen it before and have to say it didn't hit on any of the obvious reasons that its a bad idea to speak to the police. I felt sick reading her account and couldn't finish. She is not the person I would want by my side going through something like that. In spite of being a "reporter on hackers" she was extremely naive of the system. How can anyone in the right mind recommend that the prosecution reads a document called the "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto"?

gknoy 14y ago
It's a good thing to read, even so. Melancholy and sad, but not something I regret reading. It's not as informative (in terms of actionable advice) as the article on HN about how to (politely) not talk to investigators, but it showed the depths of how adversarial they can make it -- it's a game for them.

praptak 14y ago

FBI is also on that list: http://www.browardbeat.com/broward-probe-302-reasons-not-to-talk-to-the-fbi/ http://www.browardbeat.com/broward-probe-302-reasons-not-to-... "Federal agents have the right to lie to you-and to put you in prison if you lie to them. Any citizen who makes even a single-word false utterance (”no,” “yes”) to a federal agent faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine." : http://jimbovard.com/blog/2010/08/18/the-crime-of-lying-to-the-fbi/ http://jimbovard.com/blog/2010/08/18/the-crime-of-lying-to-t... They try to make witnesses contradict themselves, so that they can invoke this law and scare them into testifying what they need to hear.

macchina 14y ago
It's especially true with the FBI or any other person connected with the federal government in an investigation. Making false statements is a separate crime in itself. 18 USC § 1001 [1] [1] http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 [Fascinating article published originally in WSJ] http://ourtaxdollarsatwork.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/federal-lying-statute-a-catch-all-that-even-insnares-the-innocent/ http://ourtaxdollarsatwork.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/federal-... [How to Avoid Going to Jail under 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 for Lying to Government Agents] http://corporate.findlaw.com/litigation-disputes/how-to-avoid-going-to-jail-under-18-u-s-c-section-1001-for-lying.html http://corporate.findlaw.com/litigation-disputes/how-to-avoi...