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Can we please get some variety in the word "Closure"? This is kind of getting out of hand: Closure (the construct) Closure (Google's thing) Clojure (lisp dia

Can we please get some variety in the word "Closure"? This is kind of getting out of hand: Closure (the construct) Closure (Google's thing) Clojure (lisp dialect) ClojureScript (converts Clojure to JS) Clozure CL (another lisp dialect) Every single time I say one of these out loud, I have to explain myself. Ugh.

ynniv 14y ago
Clozure Associates was established in 2000, well before any similarly named product.
- chc 14y ago
  In fairness, though, ClozureCL was OpenMCL until 2007, the same year Clojure came out. So Rich Hickey and Clozure probably each had no idea that the other was about to name a Lisp almost the exact sam thing.
lennel 14y ago
ClojureScript convertes a subset of clojure to google closure javascript which then gets compiled.
- nicksergeant 14y ago
  Yeah. That one is particularly annoying.
- chc 14y ago
  Is "Google Closure JavaScript" really a thing? I thought Closure operated on normal JavaScript.
  - nicksergeant 14y ago
    Google Closure is a JavaScript library and compiler: https://developers.google.com/closure/ https://developers.google.com/closure/ && https://developers.google.com/closure/compiler https://developers.google.com/closure/compiler
Garoof 14y ago
> Closure (the construct) Of course, if we wanna, we can start getting confused right here. http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-15.html#footnote_Temp_154 http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-15.html... (also also, http://www.4clojure.com/ http://www.4clojure.com/ and the "So wait, I can't buy cheap real estate here?" part :)
fhars 14y ago
Yeah, the whole IT concepts naming story really lacks narrative closure (http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100223199 http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.2011080...).
JadeNB 14y ago
> Can we please get some variety in the word "Closure"? Or we could just agree not to use the name for programming things any more. Thus getting, you know, closure. :-)

ynniv 14y ago

Clozure Associates was established in 2000, well before any similarly named product.

chc 14y ago
In fairness, though, ClozureCL was OpenMCL until 2007, the same year Clojure came out. So Rich Hickey and Clozure probably each had no idea that the other was about to name a Lisp almost the exact sam thing.

lennel 14y ago

ClojureScript convertes a subset of clojure to google closure javascript which then gets compiled.

nicksergeant 14y ago
Yeah. That one is particularly annoying.
chc 14y ago
Is "Google Closure JavaScript" really a thing? I thought Closure operated on normal JavaScript.
- nicksergeant 14y ago
  Google Closure is a JavaScript library and compiler: https://developers.google.com/closure/ https://developers.google.com/closure/ && https://developers.google.com/closure/compiler https://developers.google.com/closure/compiler

Garoof 14y ago

> Closure (the construct) Of course, if we wanna, we can start getting confused right here. http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-15.html#footnote_Temp_154 http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-15.html... (also also, http://www.4clojure.com/ http://www.4clojure.com/ and the "So wait, I can't buy cheap real estate here?" part :)

fhars 14y ago

Yeah, the whole IT concepts naming story really lacks narrative closure (http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100223199 http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.2011080...).

JadeNB 14y ago

> Can we please get some variety in the word "Closure"? Or we could just agree not to use the name for programming things any more. Thus getting, you know, closure. :-)